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Old 07-09-2009, 11:05 PM   #1
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Ok I got my hands on some Deca but I cant seem to get my hands on tes. So if I was to do the deca 300 with Epistane would that be better than the deca by its self or would it just be a waste.
 
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Try for some test enthate from iran it iz easily avaliable you can order it from india as well if you dont get it stack Deca with Equipoise you will get good results & dont forget the PCT after cycle
 
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U sure? Not adding Test to a cycle is crazy. Everyone knows that TEST IS THE BASE OF ALL CYCLES!! No one on this board will recommend a cycle without test as the main ingredient.
 
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Ok I got my hands on some Deca but I cant seem to get my hands on tes. So if I was to do the deca 300 with Epistane would that be better than the deca by its self or would it just be a waste.
Without test you can totally kiss your hard on goodbye. a whole cycle of deca **** would not be fun. Check other boards for reputible sponsors and get some test e or c "whichevers cheaper"
 
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see if you are lookin for mass stacking test iz important & if he iz not able to get his hands on (E) i am sure cypionate wont be ter.It´s not very common to compare Equipoise to testosterone; however& a far more common comparison is between Equipoise and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Equipoise doesn´t actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Equipoise is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent).To make Equipoise, a double bond was added between carbon atoms 1 and 2 of the Steran Nucleus of Testosterone. What does this mean? Well, first of all, since Equipoise was created by one simple modification in the testosterone molecule, you could rightly suspect that it shares many similarities with it. Equipoise is just as anabolic as testosterone (as you can tell by its anabolic rating above), but only half as androgenic. Those ratings can be quite deceiving though, as I don´t know anyone who would claim that you can gain as much weight on Equipoise as you can gain on an equal amount of testosterone (even though strength gains from the two compounds are very similar).
 
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see if you are lookin for mass stacking test iz important & if he iz not able to get his hands on (E) i am sure cypionate wont be ter.It´s not very common to compare Equipoise to testosterone; however& a far more common comparison is between Equipoise and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Equipoise doesn´t actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Equipoise is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent).To make Equipoise, a double bond was added between carbon atoms 1 and 2 of the Steran Nucleus of Testosterone. What does this mean? Well, first of all, since Equipoise was created by one simple modification in the testosterone molecule, you could rightly suspect that it shares many similarities with it. Equipoise is just as anabolic as testosterone (as you can tell by its anabolic rating above), but only half as androgenic. Those ratings can be quite deceiving though, as I don´t know anyone who would claim that you can gain as much weight on Equipoise as you can gain on an equal amount of testosterone (even though strength gains from the two compounds are very similar).

Non Testosterone Steroids
Equipoise
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Winstroll-Injectable

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see if you are lookin for mass stacking test iz important & if he iz not able to get his hands on (E) i am sure cypionate wont be ter.It´s not very common to compare Equipoise to testosterone; however& a far more common comparison is between Equipoise and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Equipoise doesn´t actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Equipoise is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent).To make Equipoise, a double bond was added between carbon atoms 1 and 2 of the Steran Nucleus of Testosterone. What does this mean? Well, first of all, since Equipoise was created by one simple modification in the testosterone molecule, you could rightly suspect that it shares many similarities with it. Equipoise is just as anabolic as testosterone (as you can tell by its anabolic rating above), but only half as androgenic. Those ratings can be quite deceiving though, as I don´t know anyone who would claim that you can gain as much weight on Equipoise as you can gain on an equal amount of testosterone (even though strength gains from the two compounds are very similar).
check out this garden path you led us all down!

Mate, ensure you know all the facts before posting stuff like this. Its posts like this that really get the aas noobs into trouble because they cant separate the crap info from the quality info. There are multiple flaw with this information. You need to be careful because some people will take this information, use it and put themselves in harms way. This is not what the dungeon is about.

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hi F-111 it would really appericiate if you let me know abt ma flaws rest i was givin him the option for stacking you can stack deca wid Equi dont tell me you cant do it if u say so you no nothin abt Roids.
 
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So where are we? Well, I´d be comfortable recommending Deca for use in a bulking cycle at up to 600mgs/week for an extended duration (12-16 weeks), or up to 400mgs/week in a cutting cycle (again, for 12-16 weeks), as long as something to combat water retention is present. Whichever purpose you decide to use Deca for, you still need to include Testosterone in your cycle and have some anti-progesteronic drugs on hand (see paragraph above), just in case.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT), though beyond the scope of this profile, needs to be commented on. Due to the highly suppressive nature of Deca, I will speculate that testosterone in a deca-inclusive cycle needs to be run for at least 2 additional weeks upon cessation of Deca. We remember from the chart above that baseline testosterone levels took roughly a month to return. Hence, a nice long estered testosterone should be run about 2 weeks longer than deca, to prevent having a lag in time when the deca is not producing an anabolic effect, yet is still suppressing your natural testosterone levels. I´d also suggest that a particularly aggressive PCT be run after your cycle; nolvadex, HCG, and perhaps clomid should all be utilized in an effort to restore your natural hormone levels as quickly and efficiently as possible.
 
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hi F-111 it would really appericiate if you let me know abt ma flaws rest i was givin him the option for stacking you can stack deca wid Equi dont tell me you cant do it if u say so you no nothin abt Roids.
Not to be rude or anything, but you are an idiot. (when it comes to androgenic anabolic steroids)

Deca is 19nor and EQ a Non Testosterone based Steroid... therefore mixing the two would be bad. Why you might ask? Because there is no Testosterone in your mix... and the sides without the test in your mix are just simply not worth it. I don't feel like getting too detailed why I must stress test is and will always be the best to any cycle because I just woke up and I'm in a grumpy mood. (I haven't even had my first meal yet, BBD comes first before my first meal). Take my advice... and more thing, DON'T CALL THEM ROIDS.
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i dont giv **** abt ur comment ur a NOVICE to me
 
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giv me ur yahoo id we can chat or if u r in Texas you can see me today at Metroflex if you are nearby somewhere
 
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I'm respected around here and don't have time for these silly games. Are you threatening me by your post? Keep in mind this is Texas, and the laws here are a little different then other states... and YES if you try dare try to find me in any, shape, way, or form and take one step on my property... I am allowed to blow your head off. 'Castle law' arms Texas homeowners with the right to shoot if in danger. Ever hear that saying, "Don't Mess with Texas?" Well apply it, and yeah... I do have a gun. So don't you dare try to offend or threaten me on here like ever again.
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ur a kid i am chatting with warren right now so plz xcuse me
 
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Yeah bro I'm 10 minutes away from Cooper Street so what are you going to do, get you and Branch to jump me? Oh btw, you will be banned today just an fyi for your rudeness. So have fun while your still around, and tell Branch, Brian, and Big Mike (if he still goes there) I said hi.
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Haha That dude is a complete prick!!!!
 
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let me make it clear son i am not threatning you i am a serious athelete doin some serious job i got nothin to do wid who you are , wat you do neither branch or me are some road side thugs we are professionals & we behave like one.FYI Branch iz not in texas right away.

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He thinks he's cool because he trains at Metroflex and see's Branch often. Just another douche bag that doesn't deserve to be a member here.
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I just had a talk with Branch a week ago and asked him quote on quote" You still at MetroFlex right? Every damn day buddy." He may be gone today for business, but he is still here.
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no hard feelings for you Adrenaline iz always high in teens or iz it a juice rage branch dosent remember you as of now but you can catch both of us traning on Wednesday i guess you got it whome ur chattin wid.
this rage shuld be for weights not for people around be a gud lad train hard & keep growin bye
 
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My Adrenaline wasn't the initiation of this discussion it was your lack of knowledge on the use of AAS. BTW, fix your vocabulary it's really hard to comprehend what the hell your saying. Later dude.
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READ THIS YOU WILL DIE LAUGHING ITS WAT TITUS TOLD ME

Craig, what's up with the after-party ****? I just read about some chick getting fingered on the dance floor and this other guy smoking ketamine? Talk about a wild party! When is the next one?!

Yeah, well, I don't quite understand all that myself. I was hoping for this really nice write-up by Ron Harris in Muscular Development, since he was covering the party. Then I read the write-up, and he's talking about some girl getting fingered on the dance floor and somebody doing a drug called ketamine. I'd like to straighten this out right here.

First of all, when I throw on my productions, I throw them at very classy, high-level clubs with security all over the place. There's no way anybody's gonna get away with passing around a drug vial on a dance floor and snorting it without security seeing it. Unless, of course, Ron was the one doing ketamine. If he was the one doing it then I understand him writing about it, but there is absolutely no way he saw people passing around a vial without them getting caught.

We need to concentrate on the good things that these parties do for people, especially in our industry. First and foremost, they bring the athletes, the fans and the sponsors together in a casual setting where they can talk and make connections, look back on the jobs they've just done on stage, and celebrate the achievements they've just made. We don't need somebody coming to these parties and writing a total fantasy. If Ron saw anybody doing ketamine, they're not gonna tell him what they're doing! I've never even seen that at one of my parties. I'm not gonna say I haven't seen people doing drugs in nightclubs. My God, that's in every nightclub in the United States. But I don't believe anybody was f'n doing ketamine! What did Ron do? Walk up to somebody and say, "What's that? What are you snorting?" Anybody with common sense knows that unless he was snorting himself, it was totally bogus bull****!

And, if there was a girl getting fingered on the dance floor, that happens at every night club in the United States, but nobody wants to hear about it! He wrote about it like somebody forced it upon this girl.

I will tell you something right now- if this did happen at one of my parties, I would love for this girl, if she reads my column, to drop me an e-mail so I can press formal charges on the person that did it to her! I just don't believe it happened. If in fact it did happen, or if it ever does happen, I think the girl should go to security or to the police and tell them immediately. I think it's a total fabricated lie to hype up his article, unless he saw a couple of people doing it with total consent on the dance floor. I'm just saying that anytime I'm out in a club and something like that happens, security immediately goes over and tells the people to quit. I didn't see anything remotely close to any of that going on at my party. All I saw was people having a good time! If somebody was ****in' on the dance floor, I would have heard about it immediately. Everybody runs up to me and tells me what's going on, especially if a girl was crying.

Now, I don't doubt that a girl got fingered on the dance floor. Like I said, that happens at every nightclub and I have no control over anything like that. But seriously, if somebody was ****in' on the dance floor at the House of Blues, they would have been arrested immediately. People would have been screaming "Omigod, look at that!" It's ridiculous! I know for a fact that there was no pro bodybuilder on the dance floor having sex. I am absolutely positive that was a total fabrication.

In the write-up, the way Ron describes his wife and talks about her is not only disrespectful, but it makes him look foolish, to say the least. Talking about how every black man in Mandalay Bay wanted to **** his wife's brains out!? To talk about your wife in that manner in a column is not only disrespectful to your wife, but the racial remarks were totally uncalled for. If you can't bring your wife to a party and handle men hitting on her, then I suggest you don't bring your wife to a party. That will happen in any nightclub in the United States. I don't think Ron should be proud about the way he talked about his wife at all. You don't say those things about your wife, no matter how fine you think she is. You just say, "My wife looks beautiful. Men were all over because she was gorgeous." You don't have to go into explicit detail. It's crazy!

I thought Ron's article was disgusting. Ron has written columns on me before, and I by no means want to burn any bridges here with any writers, but I don't want that kind of coverage at my parties. I don't believe what was written. I didn't see anything he wrote about.

The night of the party, Ron came to my wife and thanked her for the party on the dance floor, said he and his wife were having a great time and he was coming to the next party. He was so messed up when he came up to my wife that she had to back up a second because he was spitting in her face! What's so sad about the whole thing is that he thinks he did a good write-up and that it was exciting, cool and good for the party. It's not! It was an absolute travesty for my party. I don't need those kinds of write-ups and I don't appreciate it. Until a retraction is printed, Ron Harris is not going to be allowed at one of my parties. And that's it.

Any other write-ups I've seen about the party talked about how much fun they had, how many people were there, how many girls were there, how many beautiful people were there and how much it was an asset to the sport. Ron writes about drug abuse and girls getting fingered on the dance floor, and I don't appreciate it. You know, Muscular Development should look at that. They're one of the sponsors of the party. They don't need that kind of write-up either. As good a writer as Ron is, this has made him look foolish and I am very disappointed. That's all I'm gonna say about it.
 
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Too bad him and his wife are stuck in the hole for a while.
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Am I missing something? I dont understand why that was posted?!
 
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but remember craig titus is a real badass when he was living in Venice Beach, Calif., he used to carry hunting knife in his gym bag he recived some threats on phone at Golds.
 
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Craig is truly insane.... his physique was great but his mindset was screwed. I'm surprise he still has weight on him after being in jail or so long.

..and yeah that was a random post, but thanks for changing the subject. Our argument was getting annoying to say the least.
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pleasure is mine i think ur a nice guy train hard & eat smart but tell u one thing craig was furious when he was beaten at ironman pro came to me & said can ahmad haider beat me , i simply said no becoz he was placed 5th & haider was placed 4th but craig was stressed at that time bcoz of her wife she had got some food poisining & was rushed to emergency day or two before the show.
 
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Appreciate it.
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the stats you have posted are they current
 
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