[jornT]

I know there's already a recent topic about deadlifts but I got more specific questiosns so I thought it would be better to start a new topic.

Got a couple questions regarding (stiff legged) deadlifts. These are the movements which I'm most confortable with. Atleast i feal my form isn't perfect on them. (i'm definitly for strict form, I don't use momentum/ swing/cheat on any excersize and always use full range of motion, I'm trying to build my body not my ego.

How big are your lifts in these excersize should be comparred to each other?
I'm just curious how big the diffrence is between the weights you lift on them.

When doing SLDL, you should keep back straight right? But doing so, I don't get down enough to feel a stretch in my hams. If i don't keep my back straight i can go deeper and feel a good stretch but wouldn't this be harmfull for the lower back?

About regular deadlifts. When I 'squat down' my knees get in the way. So when moving the weight up for example I have to move my leggs first (and thus bringing back knees) and after that my back can get in, but it's supposed to go simultanouis right? Any idea how to fix it? Only way to fix it is to lean more forwardand thus bending at the waist, but that not right either.

Grrrrr these really fustrate me! Any help would be appreciated.

[Diesel]

when you do SLDL your knees should slightly bent. this will allow you to get deeper while still keeping your back straight. if your knees are already bent then i would suggest to work on some flexibility. and when doing conventional deadlifts, your back should not change positions until the weight is past your knees. once the weight is past your knees you then start to straighten up your back.

you know how when you squat, if you were to look from the side the bar would move in an amost perfect line up and down. same thing with deadlifts, except for when you lock out you lean a little. watch videos of JJ and Coleman and you will get an idea of what I mean that their back does not change positions until they get the bar past thier knees.

im tryin to help best i can, let me know if this makes any sense at all....

[Rocky]

I agree with Diesel. Definately keep you legs slightly unlocked in SLDL otherwise it puts unnecessary strain on them anyway. Same goes for most leg and standing back exercises (e.g. Bent over BB row). Shouldn't ever have your legs completely straight with knees locked.

[Uriel]

Definetly don't lock your legs. Trainers always insist in keeping the knees locked in sldls and on ham stretches, but that's realy a terrible thing to do to the knee joint. I get extreme pain on my knees if I stretch my hamstrings with them locked. A slight bend and I feel a great stretch in the muscle belly.

[Nothin' but a peanut!!]

deadlifts - stick your arse out like you're taking it from behind push with the legs and like diesel said hte bar goes u and down but for past the knees. lift with legs arms stay straight and pull the weight up
for sldl i keep my knees just bent enough to be able to get the bar to the floor and really stretch the hell out of my hams and it feels great keeping them straight and locked i dont feel comfortable and also find it difficult to get down low wnough and it hurts my back. knees locked i feel the strain in the back of the knee just slightly bent feel it thru the muscle

[jornT]

Today I did (regular) deadlifts again and I listened to you guys and watched some clips of pro's doing them. Well I did this many times before but thsi time I would just cpoy their way I noticed they al do it powerlifting style, or atleast I thought this was pwoerlifting style. They just pull the weight and drop it it, totally neglecting the excentric part. I always pull the weight, and go down rather slowly, keeping the weight 1 cm above the ground and next rep, but going downwards i always fucked my form, hanging way to much forward, often getting my knees in the way. Anyway I tried their style today and it was great. I had no problem whatsoever with the form and I could lift weight I normally couldn't dream of. So that's good and all, but I just wonderd, is this a good bodybuilding excersize? I believe right away this will imporve my strenght, but because I have the feeling I'm more powerlifting than bodybuilding. Thx in advance!

[Uriel]

Watching the pros' form is a bad idea....

And hell yeah they'll build meat. That'll thicken up your spinal erectors like no other. Hypers are NOTHING compared to deads.

[jornT]

Yeah I know the deadlifts are insane builders, but I mean doing them powerlifting style, is that still a good mass builders, cuz the time under tensions is diffrent for example.

[Uriel]

Obviously, when you shorten the TUT you gain less mass in favor of power, but a deadlift is a deadlift, it's a great builder no matter how you do it.

[jornT]

Great, I'm going to do it powerlifting style than. Love them! Besides, when I did them and keeped the weight of the ground I used like 1/4 of the weight and the form was still crappy, so I think my gains will probably will be better!