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Old 11-12-2005, 04:37 AM   #1
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i;ve read the book of mike mentzer ( H.I.T the mike mentzer way ) and i have some point on the first principle of the H.I.T ( the identity ).....

we all know that all the muscles in the body are in the same structure and they all have the same cells(exept the heart muscle is from another kind of fiber)

so they all grow in one way because the all the same..i mean there is no differnce
between me or any other one in the globe(i mean we all have the same muscle...i know they may have more or taller musle fiber ) but... but we all not alike in thinking (which mike didnt include it in his book)....so lets say that his method is the only way to train right but u dont belive in it...u will not get any result and thats because ur minds do not belive in it..

my point is that if u have the best approach in the world to train and u dont belive in it ... u will not get any result..on the contrary of u have a less than perfect approach and u strongly belive in it u will get results

thanks.. and i hope im right..if im wrong correct for me :)
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:12 AM   #2
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There are many types of muscle fibers. There are cardiac fibers (heart), soft fibers (non striated muscle, like in your internal organs) and skeletal muscle fibers, which can be divided in many sub cathegories (Type Ia, Type IIa and Type IIb being the basic, and then there are several others that are a combination of two of these to some extent). We all have different amounts of different fibers in different muscles and, most importantly, different hormonal levels (the entire growth response, protein synthesis, glycogen storage process is promoted, like any other reaction in our body, by hormones). All that plus the different skeletal structures (someone with longer arms may find, for example, the flat bench an inefective chest exercise, while someone with short arms may be the other way around) and whatnot make us greatly different in how we respond to different training programs.
 
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:19 PM   #3
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Maybe in theory they are all similar but along with what Uriel states (very well informed I might add), you have to take into account conditioning of muscles that comes with your unique life. Your calves for example have a lot greater resistance than your pecs (generally) as they are used to hauling your bodyweight around the majority of the day so will probably respond to a different type of training than your pecs would. Likewise depending on what your job is you may have conditioned certain muscles in some way, and to make them grow beyond this may require a different style of training again. There is no universal system to grow your muscles the same as everyone else, there is only a system that works specifically for you, and that's what training is all about, finding what works for you and sticking with it until it stops working, then change it, and so on. You know your body better than anyone so you'll find out what works for you, all everyone can do here is point you in the right direction and give you suggestions. Good luck with it all!
 
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:34 PM   #4
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There are many types of muscle fibers. There are cardiac fibers (heart), soft fibers (non striated muscle, like in your internal organs) and skeletal muscle fibers, which can be divided in many sub cathegories (Type Ia, Type IIa and Type IIb being the basic, and then there are several others that are a combination of two of these to some extent). We all have different amounts of different fibers in different muscles and, most importantly, different hormonal levels (the entire growth response, protein synthesis, glycogen storage process is promoted, like any other reaction in our body, by hormones). All that plus the different skeletal structures (someone with longer arms may find, for example, the flat bench an inefective chest exercise, while someone with short arms may be the other way around) and whatnot make us greatly different in how we respond to different training programs.
Good summation.

There are also subtle metabolic factors such as specific liver enzymes that differ between people.

HIT has never agreed with me. Although I am 6' I have a slight build. HIT causes me too many muscle and tendon strains. I have become of the opinion that the average person must already have substantial size for HIT to be of benefit. A number of Pros have used such high intensity programs - but even they were big already.

Periodization is the key to continued growth!

Volume is king!
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