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Old 11-08-2005, 12:13 PM   #1
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Hi, I've been going to the gym 2-3 times per week for around a month now.

I've just started drinking a Met-Rx Supreme Whey protein shake after each workout.

I'd like to build on what I have but sometimes feel I'm getting no where. I'm 6ft 4" approx, and 80kgs in weight. I have a high metabolism. I started off rather week and I'm currently able to do the following:

Benching - normally hitting 60kgs, max is 65-70kgs
Curling - normally doing 12.5kgs dumbells, max is about 40kgs on barbell.

(I know its weak but we need to all start somewhere!)

I work as a door steward aka bouncer so sometimes I'm doing 6 hours shifts without eating. I'd be allowed to drink shakes or eat a nutrition bar.

I'm primarily interested in building strength and size.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a complete three day workout, along with supplements I should be taking.

Cheers,

Khalid
 
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:27 PM   #2
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You sound like me - lean with high metabolism and find it hard to put on size! The key really is to eat whenever you can - literally, when you think about it - eat! I take 1 protein shake a day, plus a couple of BCAA caps.If you're waiting that long between meals (6hrs!), but can have a drink, take a meal replacement drink which has protein + carbs in, which you'll need to remain in a catabolic state!

As for routine - the one I'm on at the mo, and is pretty much a common split is:

Day 1 - Chest/ Tris
Day 2 - Rest
Day 3 - Back/Bis
Day 4 - Rest
Day 5 - Legs/Shoulders
Day 6 - Rest
Day 7 - Rest or repeat programme

As for the exercises, you'll have to experiment a little bit both in what ones to do and how to do them to see what works for you, but to start I'd aim for reps in the 6 - 8 range for your main set and use these tried and tested exercises:

Chest: Incline b/bell bench press, Flat d/bell press, cable crossovers
Tris: Close grip-bench press, French press, Cable pressdown

Back: Wide grip chins (or pulldowns), Barbell bent over row, Close grip pulldowns
Bis: EZ B/bell curls, alternate d/bell curls, concentration curls

Legs: Squat, Leg Press, Lunges, Stiff leg deadlift, leg curl, leg extension
Shoulders: D/bell overhead press, Side lateral raises, Bent over lateral raises, shrugs

See which of those work and choose 3 - 4 exercises for the bigger muscle groups and 2 - 3 for thesmaller ones and stick with them. Aim to put on a little bit of weight to the bar or do one more rep (still in your target range) every time you hit the gym, and you will get bigger. And before your main set do 1 - 2 warm up sets using about 70% of your main set weight.
As with it all, it's trial and error as to what will work for you.

Ab work - crunches and leg raises to hit the upper and lower abs respectively once or twice a week! If you're lean like me it doesn't take much to keep this area in shape!

As far as supplements go. Stick with your protein and weight gain shakes to increase your calorie and protein intake. Maybe try cycling Creatine aswell! It's all I've ever used and a good base for someone who wants to stay natural!
Good luck, and let me know how you get on!
 
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:36 PM   #3
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You sound like me - lean with high metabolism and find it hard to put on size! The key really is to eat whenever you can - literally, when you think about it - eat! I take 1 protein shake a day, plus a couple of BCAA caps.If you're waiting that long between meals (6hrs!), but can have a drink, take a meal replacement drink which has protein + carbs in, which you'll need to remain in a catabolic state!

As for routine - the one I'm on at the mo, and is pretty much a common split is:

Day 1 - Chest/ Tris
Day 2 - Rest
Day 3 - Back/Bis
Day 4 - Rest
Day 5 - Legs/Shoulders
Day 6 - Rest
Day 7 - Rest or repeat programme

As for the exercises, you'll have to experiment a little bit both in what ones to do and how to do them to see what works for you, but to start I'd aim for reps in the 6 - 8 range for your main set and use these tried and tested exercises:

Chest: Incline b/bell bench press, Flat d/bell press, cable crossovers
Tris: Close grip-bench press, French press, Cable pressdown

Back: Wide grip chins (or pulldowns), Barbell bent over row, Close grip pulldowns
Bis: EZ B/bell curls, alternate d/bell curls, concentration curls

Legs: Squat, Leg Press, Lunges, Stiff leg deadlift, leg curl, leg extension
Shoulders: D/bell overhead press, Side lateral raises, Bent over lateral raises, shrugs

See which of those work and choose 3 - 4 exercises for the bigger muscle groups and 2 - 3 for thesmaller ones and stick with them. Aim to put on a little bit of weight to the bar or do one more rep (still in your target range) every time you hit the gym, and you will get bigger. And before your main set do 1 - 2 warm up sets using about 70% of your main set weight.
As with it all, it's trial and error as to what will work for you.

Ab work - crunches and leg raises to hit the upper and lower abs respectively once or twice a week! If you're lean like me it doesn't take much to keep this area in shape!

As far as supplements go. Stick with your protein and weight gain shakes to increase your calorie and protein intake. Maybe try cycling Creatine aswell! It's all I've ever used and a good base for someone who wants to stay natural!
Good luck, and let me know how you get on!
couldn't say it better myself. great job
 
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:44 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by khalid_online
Hi, I've been going to the gym 2-3 times per week for around a month now.

I've just started drinking a Met-Rx Supreme Whey protein shake after each workout.

I'd like to build on what I have but sometimes feel I'm getting no where. I'm 6ft 4" approx, and 80kgs in weight. I have a high metabolism. I started off rather week and I'm currently able to do the following:

Benching - normally hitting 60kgs, max is 65-70kgs
Curling - normally doing 12.5kgs dumbells, max is about 40kgs on barbell.

(I know its weak but we need to all start somewhere!)

I work as a door steward aka bouncer so sometimes I'm doing 6 hours shifts without eating. I'd be allowed to drink shakes or eat a nutrition bar.

I'm primarily interested in building strength and size.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a complete three day workout, along with supplements I should be taking.

Cheers,

Khalid
Been there myself! Try to get clean foods. I know protein shakes are advertised a lot but you need to get quality protein from lean meats eg chicken, lean steak, fish ect.

Stick to heavy compound movements
deadlifts, barbellrows for back
Any bench movement for chest free weights of cource
Squats for legs.
Cheat curls for biceps
Narrow grip press for triceps
Barbell shrugs for traps
Military press for shoulders
Standing calf raise for calves.
Abs weighted roman chairs

A lot of guys over use machines but free weights always causes you to gain muscle quickly. Have you watched Ronnie squat! If he did not push the weight up he would be crushed.
Fear increases a serge in growth hormones thats why free weights are always better there is no option you have to lift.

Stick to he
 
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