behind the neck press......

**fahad** · 04-10-2005, 05:56 PM

hey guys have u ever noticed that most of the people who does behind the neck press usually have bige shoulders....from batista to mark dugdale, nasser el sombaty, paul dilltte and in the past dexter jackson, dennis james, chris cook, markus ruhl......however i noticed that some people who did them like nasser and markus are accuesd of putting sunthol....put i think that behind the neck press are great way the develop the middle delt area as long as u do them right and even behind the neck pulldowns are great foe develping the middle and lower traps but not the lats....but i mean didnt u ever noticed that who ever does them have connable delts....and does any one here do them on ragular bases....thx.........

Ironslave · 04-10-2005, 08:05 PM

You have to be careful of the false authority logical fallacy. The reason for Nassar and Markus being accused of synthol is it is blatantly obvious they have. But i do these all the time, they are a great exercise.

**fahad** · 04-10-2005, 08:32 PM

yo wut do u mean by You have to be careful of the false authority logical fallacy.......

**fahad** · 04-10-2005, 08:40 PM

i mean am not acusing anybody am just saying wut i heard.....but nasser looks like he puts synthol in his biceps...but wutever.....

Ironslave · 04-10-2005, 08:56 PM

Flase authority...using two not necessarily silimar events to support a conclusion, for example, your sentence :

[quote=fahad]hey guys have u ever noticed that most of the people who does behind the neck press usually have bige shoulders....QUOTE]

This would be a false authority. Behind the back pulldowns are not necessarily the reason for the guys you mentioned having big shoulders. For example, too many people use this with regards to supplements. Ex. Jay Cutler and Chris Cormier are huge, Jay Cutler and Chris Cormier use Cell Tech, therefore Cell Tech will make you huge.

You are right though, Markus and Nassar have used synthol, i will attach some pics.

Ironslave · 04-10-2005, 08:57 PM

Markus in 2001

Ironslave · 04-10-2005, 08:57 PM

Nassar in 02

**fahad** · 04-10-2005, 09:04 PM

yo i didnt say people who does behind th neck pulldowns have big shoulder i said people who does behind the neck press have big shoulders and i ment that in a good way......plus i have nothing against nasser or markus cuz am not like those bitches out there who have nothing to say but talk shit about other pros......so next time read carefully.....and thx......

**fahad** · 04-10-2005, 09:08 PM

and i was more trying to talk about the exersice itself because some people avoid behind the neck press and pulldowns and i use to be one of them but now am doing them with good form and they r great....

Big Country · 04-10-2005, 11:08 PM

To get back on to the original topic here, I think behind the neck shoulder presses, if done properly, are great. The bad part with these is that your form could get pretty bad and you can seriously damage your shoulder, which is why I like using the smith machine. People just have to train smart when doing them, like anything else, and use good form, and they should be fine.

Ironslave · 04-10-2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Country

To get back on to the original topic here, I think behind the neck shoulder presses, if done properly, are great. The bad part with these is that your form could get pretty bad and you can seriously damage your shoulder, which is why I like using the smith machine. People just have to train smart when doing them, like anything else, and use good form, and they should be fine.

thank you, good post.

Johnny Bravo · 04-16-2005, 04:13 PM

I know quite a few who has ended up damaging their shoulders, while trying to do behind neck press in the smith machine.
Your body are not allowed to perform in its natural "movement" while doing almost anything in smith machines.
Behind neck press do not target any muscles that you couldn't target doing the presses in front of you.

Hope my English doesn't suck too much.

**fahad** · 04-16-2005, 04:46 PM

as i said they r great and the people who usualy do them have big rounded shoulder like as if u got balls in your shoulders...........u c i dont no and i have never seen rodney st. cloud doing behind the neck press......but am sure that he probably do them on regular bases cuz i think that his shoulders are out of this world.........