[fahad]

yo bro lesson and read the the posts again cuz i never said behind the neck pulldowns work your shoulders i said that about behind the neck press...i just mentioned both of these exersices cuz alot of people gave up on then and dont do them cuz they place stress on the rotater cuffs............just read it i said that behind the neck press puts extra focus more on your medial delt area and behind the neck pulldowns focus more on your middle and trap and pulldowns to the front focus more on your lats and they said that in an study about the types of pulldowns so am not bringing that from my ass.......i hope u understand now bro cuz am sick from posting in this topic...

[sadistikal]

Originally Posted by Living_Cartoon

Synthol is a synthetic oil that can be injected into the muscles (which is painful and has to be injected very very deep) and it gives the muscle a wider bigger and fuller appearance. It really sacrafices definition however, it's a tool among the pro's, as well as insulin, roids, and HGH, and it's starting to look stupid.

Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[shitpacker]

According to EMG analysis of the three heads of the deltoid during various exercises, the 'behind-the-neck' press is the only one that successfully activates the posterior (rear) head. When performed correctly, the exercise activates the upper trapezius, posterior and Medial heads of the deltoid only (with very minimal anterior deltoid activation - roughly 10%).

The muscle activation percentages are something like:

Posterior: 40%
Medial: 55%
Trapezius (upper): 35%

The exercise should not be performed by athletes with overly tight or weak rotator cuffs.

Suggested weight: 75% of your usual military-press. (10-12 reps).

For an excellent posterior delt burn, superset with bent-over lateral raises.

[big D]

Synthol rules!

[Ronnie singh]

Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

I know quite a few who has ended up damaging their shoulders, while trying to do behind neck press in the smith machine.
Your body are not allowed to perform in its natural "movement" while doing almost anything in smith machines.
Behind neck press do not target any muscles that you couldn't target doing the presses in front of you.

Hope my English doesn't suck too much.

AGREED,IF U REALLY WANNA FUCK UR SHOULDERS DO "BEHIND THE NECK"

[fahad]

hey honstly i feel more pain in my shoulder joint when doing reverse peck deck flys than doing BNP......actullu i dont feel pain at all when i do BNP but i lower the bar only to ear level.......

[GoingBiG]

Originally Posted by fahad

hey honstly i feel more pain in my shoulder joint when doing reverse peck deck flys than doing BNP......actullu i dont feel pain at all when i do BNP but i lower the bar only to ear level.......

Some people are never getting problems with their shoulders doing behind neck press... But why take the chances when there are exercises that are doing the same´just with out the risk?

[Six]

GB could u explain me why you don't believe in exercise variation?
and why than don't you take one exercise for each muscle (one you like or think is the best) and do only those exercises (in your fullbody training)?

I'm just trying to C your point (of topic)

[GoingBiG]

GB could u explain me why you don't believe in exercise variation?

This will be a little hard for me explaining in english, but I'll try anyway...

Muscles are pretty stupid... So if you choose exercises so that you get the hole body trained, it's not neccesary switching them up... Variation is important in training(changing up reps, sets, intensity) but not when it comes to exercises... The muscles aren't going to grow more if you do DB curls instead of hammercurls it's still the same thing happening in the muscle.
I know that hammercurls will train the forearm a little more, but it's not that more than db curls will... So the difference is so little that it will not be able to see...

Feel free to ask, if you didn't understand me or if I got your question wrong

and why than don't you take one exercise for each muscle (one you like or think is the best) and do only those exercises (in your fullbody training)?

I could do.. It's just so that my training isn't getting boring...

[Six]

thanks for the reply gb

it seems that we don't share the same opinion but who gives a fuck ^^

IMO if you do hammers you 'll simulate the brachialis more(+forarms),
if you do DB curls youre concentrating a little more on the biceps brachii
so if you do them both you will train 'completer'
in the beginning you won't notice it but in the end when it comes to real body building it will make a difference that you really should notice

this goes for most of the exercises imo

I see your point but thats what I think

case closed, peace .

EDIT : oh one more thing :) :
why would bodybuilders do so much different exercises? and not train like you?

[fahad]

six i agree with u

[GoingBiG]

EDIT : oh one more thing :
why would bodybuilders do so much different exercises? and not train like you?

Comparing Pro to "us" is unreal.... The pros are using large amounts of anabolics, hGH, insulin, IGF and what's else on the market...

And actually there are a lot of programs who are using few exercises like me.. HST for example...
When I'm doing fullbody 3 times a week i can't do that many exercises, and i wouldn't do it if i could.. There are no reason to do more work to get the same gains...

More training isn't equal more gains... My forearms will still get trained when doing db curls, they get trained in other exercises to different kind of pull exercises

[18inchGun]

i agree with you going big, i've been lifting for 3 years now, and im finally seing that you dont have to do 10 excersises for 1 muscle group in order to get gains, you can get the same gains doing 4 good excersises, you just have to do them hard and properly