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Old 09-24-2005, 03:15 PM   #1
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......when doing heavy benches, in the 2-3 reps region, is it okay to use a smith machine wit locks. Im askin dis becoz i do not hav a training partner to spot me. I kno i can js ask sum1 to cum n spot me, but r smith machines js as useful for strength?
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:30 PM   #2
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are they useful? yes, just as? in some aspects no. You can't substitute for free weights. I mean you'll come to realize if you can do XXX amout of weight on the smitch machine it won't translate to regular bench because it is a slightly different movement due to your form not being restricted to a 1 dimensional plane.
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:40 PM   #3
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are they useful? yes, just as? in some aspects no. You can't substitute for free weights. I mean you'll come to realize if you can do XXX amout of weight on the smitch machine it won't translate to regular bench because it is a slightly different movement due to your form not being restricted to a 1 dimensional plane.
Yea i agree. Another thing, just b/c you dont have a spot doesnt mean youll be fine on the smith machine. Ive seen people get themselves in trouble on those before. So either way, get someone to spot you.
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:41 PM   #4
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......when doing heavy benches, in the 2-3 reps region, is it okay to use a smith machine wit locks. Im askin dis becoz i do not hav a training partner to spot me. I kno i can js ask sum1 to cum n spot me, but r smith machines js as useful for strength?
^^^I've never had to concentrate that much to read a simple paragraph. How about we type w/ actual words
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 04:18 PM   #5
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........thanks for the feedback...i'll work on my typing
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:34 PM   #6
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The smith can be used as assistance for your bench, but never use a machine for a ME lift.

And I've been benching heavy without a spot for ages. Messed up my hair ocasionaly on the incline, but never a big deal
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:35 PM   #7
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Not a big deal until you tear a pec and have X amount of weight fall on your chest
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:38 PM   #8
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It's about knowing when to stop

The spot is usualy a more psychological thing anyway. Let's say you're benching 500lbs. You fail and the bar is falling. What's your spot gonna do, curl it up?
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:39 PM   #9
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I know what you mean but things can happen. Just because you know you can do a weight for a certain amount of reps easily doesnt mean you wont pull something or tear something. Im not the type of person where I think you need a spot of every single workout known to man. For me the only lifts I use a spot are squat, seated military press, all bench presses doen w/ BB's and leg presses on the sled. I agree that its ridiculous when I see these guys doing DB bench and they have someone spot them. I just think safety should come first over everything.
 
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:37 PM   #10
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Meh, like I said, I don't usualy need spots. Only ocasionaly, like on my last set and I realy wanna go beyond failure, then I ask someone and they'll know I mean business.
 
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Old 09-25-2005, 03:09 PM   #11
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I agree that its ridiculous when I see these guys doing DB bench and they have someone spot them.
Why is it ridiculous? Maybe those people are going heavy on DBs and want to push it till failure... Sometimes its good to do forced reps.
 
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Old 09-25-2005, 03:15 PM   #12
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Why is it ridiculous? Maybe those people are going heavy on DBs and want to push it till failure... Sometimes its good to do forced reps.
Yea i know what you mean, but I just think YOU get the weight or YOU dont. Even when im doing flat bench w/ BB and someone is spotting me; I will go to failure but as soon as my spotter has to help me im done. Its just the way I train I guess.
 
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:21 PM   #13
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if you're serious about improving your form and bench strength just ask someone for a spot. The smith wont help your bench form at all.

also, read this article. http://www.ruggedmag.com/index.php?t...ticle&i=16&a=8
 
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:04 PM   #14
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It's about knowing when to stop

The spot is usualy a more psychological thing anyway. Let's say you're benching 500lbs. You fail and the bar is falling. What's your spot gonna do, curl it up?

My buddy tore his pec last week, doing 460,, the spot didnt do shit for him,, i mean he tried but he couldnt
 
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