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Old 11-22-2008, 01:00 AM   #1
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Im 19, 6'2" 185 and ive been working out seriously for the last few years. I've always had a problem of going to the gym with a gameplan, but about halfway through my OCD kicks in and i start to do way too much and for way too long. I've made decent gains and im moderately happy with how i look, but i want to try a new routine. Ive read up on the 5x5 method and i think that's what im gonna try next. My questions are: is it better/more beneficial to do MWF workouts rather than a MTTHF or MTWTHF workout? Should i work out each bodypart twice a week? You do one main compound lift for 5x5 and then do maybe 1 or 2 isolation lifts for maybe 2x8-10? Sorry for the long-ass novel, but i just want to get everything right before i start the routine. I'm sure ill have more questions as i think of them. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:55 AM   #2
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My first and most successful routine was a 5x5 variant. It was 3 times a week (M,W,F). I believe Monday was Squat, Bench, and Rows. Wednesday was Squat, Incline, and Deadlift. And Friday was same exercises as Monday but with a little bit diff. weights and reps. I think there were maybe just a couple isolation lifts on Monday and on Friday.
Anyway, I'll leave it to someone else to recommend specifics. I'm no expert. But I felt like I got good results with 5x5, just 3 times a week. I too like to go to the gym often and stay there a long time, but by forcing myself to stick with the program the intensity of my workouts was better. If you're looking to put on some mass, I recommend developing and sticking to a 5x5 routine.
I'm interested to hear other members' opinions who are more knowledgeable than myself (basically everyone).
 
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:13 AM   #3
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the 5x5 is awesome! it is so awesome in fact, that its biggest downfall is people stay with it long after the gains have slowed. I had stalled out for a little bit and switched to the 5x5.. i grew, i grew, i grew, and i got stronger too. buuut i stayed with it prolly 6 months longer than i should have.

it depends on your experience level how often you should go to the gym and how many lifts you should do when there. in my opinion though, the 5x5 is only effective on big compound lifts... and you gotta go heavy
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:25 AM   #4
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5x5 is great
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:06 PM   #5
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so maybe a split should be like:
Monday
Bench Press 5x5
Bent Row 5x5
Squat 5x5

Wednesday
Squat 5x5
Deadlift 5x5
Overhead Press 5x5

Friday
Bench 5x5
Squat 5x5
Bent Row 5x5

with a few bicep/tricep isolation exercises and abs each day too? thanks.
 
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:10 PM   #6
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I basically did this routine.

Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version

I'm not saying it's the best, but I did it for 3 or 4 months and had nice results.
 
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:01 PM   #7
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I think ive got all the progressive loading ideas down, but what im wondering is what do you do for bi's and tri's? I also found this routine

Monday/Wednesday/Friday

1) Barbell Squats

2) Bench Press

3) Barbell Rows or T-Bar Rows

4) Overhead Barbell Shoulder Press

5) Stiff-legged Deadlifts

6) Barbell Curls

what do you guys think? thanks.
 
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Old 11-22-2008, 07:07 PM   #8
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Yea a while ago I was told to use the 5x5. It's great
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:24 AM   #9
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I agree with the Bill Starr approach, or rather, the one top set for 5RM with 4 warming up sets, increasing the weight each time. 5 "hard" sets sounds too much, though Reg Park recommended out of the 5 sets, the 3 to be hard.

A solid program should include some sort of cycling. For example, you set out 12 weeks to improve your squat, bench and deadlift.

Full body workouts to be done 2-3 times a week. Each week there should be a max of one "heavy" day, the others being "light" or "medium". The goal is to increase your 5RM.

For his example:
Current PBs
Squat:5x100
Bench:5x70
Deadlift:5x130

I hope the spreadsheet makes sense. You should be able to add 5kgs to each of these basic lifts within 12 weeks, each lift having it's own 4 week microcycle. The "heavy" day figures correspond to your 5RM, whilst "medium" is roughly 10RM and "light" 15RM. So you could tailor this program to suit higher repetitions if you wanted too.

The most important factor for any weight-training regime to work is progress in the weight that you can lift. Sounds simple, but most bodybuilding programs completely ommit this part, concentrating instead on more sets, more exercises, greater pump etc. It takes time to build muscle and don't overload yourself with hitting the muscle from different angles. Concentrate on a few or even a single exercise for a period of time, beat your PB, then move onto the next. You will have lagging points, which are mostly genetic based anyway, but until you reach a certain size (16" lean, unpumped arms should be about right and that would require 5RMs in the region of 150kg/190kg/120kg for squat/deadlift/bench respectively), it would be foolish to work on these with loads of isolation exercises.

And I assume you are in the know of the drugs in this sport? If not, highly recommend watching "Bigger, stronger, faster" and have a look around this forum.
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