[Bigsteve]

Ok my chest is getting harder and so is shoulders arms and legs. I'm still working on my stomach. But something that is getting to me real bad is the fat on bottom of chest toward the arm pits. How can I get rid of this. My work routine is on the sig

[Nixy_22]

Time gets rid of it. Start to monitor your diet and begin to start cutting your carbs down and keeping your protein intake high. Then just keep doing weights and as much cardio as you physically can, an hour to an hour and a half a day or 6 days a week, if possible. HIIT, maybe some kinda aerobically orientated training... the works. Just keep chipping away at it. If that takes too long for you, maybe try a fat burner like I'm going too do, but you still have too keep everything else up (diet/cardio), but it might just give you that little extra fat loss.

Maybe give yourself a goal too. I'm 15 stone 4lbs atm, by Christmas I want too be 14 stone bang on.

Other than that I'm not too sure about spot fat reduction. Some magazines say its BS others like confusingly FLEX magazine, said they did some tests and it proved spot reduction worked, ya know like targeting an area and doing lots of reps or in their case sit ups too remove body fat from that area. Not sure how that'd work for your area your talking about that. Best bet is too just do as above says tho and give it time :)

[tim290280]

^^ Had the conversation about spot reduction on another forum recently. There was a recent paper that was published that Flex is quoting which says it is possible. The problem is of course that the foremost lipid researcher in the world says their methods couldn't prove their findings/claims. His testing has shown that it doesn't happen.

Basically what is thought to happen is that local lipolosis occurs mobilising fats into the blood and muscles for fuel locally. This is the spot reduction claim, exercise burns the local stores. But the flip side is; why would the body burn these stores and not replenish them so that they will have easily/locally available energy stores for the next bout of exercise?

Simply put, just because the body burns fat from localised stores doesn't mean that it will remove the fat stores from that site long term.

[Nixy_22]

Originally Posted by tim290280

^^ Had the conversation about spot reduction on another forum recently. There was a recent paper that was published that Flex is quoting which says it is possible. The problem is of course that the foremost lipid researcher in the world says their methods couldn't prove their findings/claims. His testing has shown that it doesn't happen.

Basically what is thought to happen is that local lipolosis occurs mobilising fats into the blood and muscles for fuel locally. This is the spot reduction claim, exercise burns the local stores. But the flip side is; why would the body burn these stores and not replenish them so that they will have easily/locally available energy stores for the next bout of exercise?

Simply put, just because the body burns fat from localised stores doesn't mean that it will remove the fat stores from that site long term.

Great post and makes sense

[MikeNYY420]

You can't spot target fat lose. You lose that by getting overall leaner, simple as that.

[MikeNYY420]

Tim, I understand what you're saying this time (wooo for me), but what exactly do you mean by local lipolosis? And what exactly causes that? Working the specific muscle, in this case chest, that you want the liposis to occur at?

[ZackKnight]

Tim, I like you.... you actually know shit

[KM]

Originally Posted by tim290280

^^ Had the conversation about spot reduction on another forum recently. There was a recent paper that was published that Flex is quoting which says it is possible. The problem is of course that the foremost lipid researcher in the world says their methods couldn't prove their findings/claims. His testing has shown that it doesn't happen.

Basically what is thought to happen is that local lipolosis occurs mobilising fats into the blood and muscles for fuel locally. This is the spot reduction claim, exercise burns the local stores. But the flip side is; why would the body burn these stores and not replenish them so that they will have easily/locally available energy stores for the next bout of exercise?

Simply put, just because the body burns fat from localised stores doesn't mean that it will remove the fat stores from that site long term.

In addition, he also stated that exercise can not singly spot reduce, however toning of the musculature around certain areas can give that appearance, thus the induced lipolysis is intramyocellular.

Personally, I don't believe it is possible unless mainly focused to do so through lipolysis of specific areas, and little to no focus on other areas.

[tim290280]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

Tim, I understand what you're saying this time (wooo for me), but what exactly do you mean by local lipolosis? And what exactly causes that? Working the specific muscle, in this case chest, that you want the liposis to occur at?

Lipolysis is the break down of fat stored in fat cells. Localised just means the stores that are surrounding, adjacent, or near to the site performing exercise. In the case of legs it would be the fat in the legs (intra or extra or cutaneous fat stores). From what I've read it sounds like these stores act as quickly available energy while the body can mobilise it's main stores for energy release/mobilisation. So you start jogging and you burn up some fat in the leg stores while the body starts getting some of the fat from your gut, ass, back, where-ever. So you don't get site reduction, especially not long term.

Originally Posted by ZackKnight

Tim, I like you.... you actually know shit

Thanks Zac

reppage?

[MikeNYY420]

Ok now I got that but, why would the body use fat stores as an energy source when it has glucose and glycogen readily available?

[tim290280]

^^ Because it uses a combination of energy stores. The type/intensity and duration of the activity affects the ratio.

[ZackKnight]

taken care of my good man (Tim)