[allstar]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

Wow, great post.

So Allstar, you say white and red blood cells are suspended in plasma, does that mean that are in plasma?

What percent of what else makes up the rest of the blood?

What respiratory gases are transported and to where? More importantly perhaps what are they?

What is Hemoglobin and what does it do? White blood cells are primarily used to fight infections right?

Don't you not want blood to clot?

You want blood to clot when you get cut, otherwise you would bleed to death.

[MikeNYY420]

Originally Posted by Freak

Quit reading the outdated book you are just getting more confused. Get the nutrition book I have told you 1k times to get and the books Zir mentioned.

I've been asking my mom everyday man, she keeps saying that I have to wait until she can put more money into her paypal account, which will be a few weeks.

Originally Posted by KM

lol soon you'll know twice as much as me, I'm sure of that.



Read allstar's link, this should lay out the guidelines.


I'll take what Arnold says with a grain of salt. Not sure what he means, trainign the cardiovascular system. I'd agree that blood circulation improves through cardiac work, not sure how this would carry out lactic acid.

Lactic acid can be removed in 2 ways:

Converted to yield glucose and eventually excreted by the lungs or an adjustment into pyruvate.

Or, it can simply be removed within an hour or so.



Here's a quick little chart:
0-6sec: intense exercise - phosphagen system is enabled.
6-30sec: intense exercise - phosphagen and Anaerobic glycolytic system is enabled.
30sec-2min: heavy intensity -anaerobic glycolytic system enabled
2-3min: moderate-moderate/low intensity - AG and aeorobic glyc system
3min+: aerobic glycotic system enabled

Numbers are around abouts, not exact. That should help ya.


You can't control which energy system you use. The only way to differentiate this is by different exercise, intensities and time variables. In most cases, cardio done is aerobic which can allow your body to break down fats (TG's; triglycerides) for energy, because your body can not undergo glycogenolysis (use of glycogen...stored glucose). That is also, if protein is kept where it should be.

not sure last question, catabolism is done through many different processes, primarily being gluconeogensis. Whether ATP is used during the conversion i'm not sure.

For future reference: gluconeogensis is the breakdown of proteins and/or fatty acids into glucose for energy. Opposite of glycolysis.

Haha I hope so man. I'd like to get the college textbook that Zir meantioned as well as a few others. So I should be right up there soon!

By training the cardio system he means aerobic exercise. He also says taking less time between sets, which def. works.

How do the lungs excret glucose?? Just by breathing or what? What's pyruvate?

Right now I have 14 definitions and all your charts, great references.

Not to be difficult but in the 0-6 seconds if the exercise isn't intense than is the same system still enabled?

Could someone walk me through the ins and outs of how the phosphagen system works. Here's what I know, it's responsible for creating ATP in response to high intensity exercise. It uses creatine kinase and creatine phosphate to replenish ATP stores during rest periods between exercise. ATP is the main source of energy in humans, which I don't understand because other systems are used too.

Where you say Ag and aerobic glyco. system you mean aerobic and anaerobic glyco systems right?

Are triglycerides the only kinds of fats that can to broken down for energy and does this only happen in moderate intensity exercise like jogging like I remember from the HIIT thread? Or is triglycerides what their called after they're broken down?

Good thing you defined gluconeogensis, I was gonna ask haha.

My head is actually hurting slightly, I'd guess from trying to learn so much and from some stuff I did yesterday haha. I'm gonna go pass out, great info guys I'm bookmarking this thread for sure.

[allstar]

dude freaks book that he is talkin about is like $5 tops

[MikeNYY420]

Originally Posted by Freak

For questions such as what is hemoglobin try

I love your motivation Mike but please get rid of Arnolds book.

, Google sucks. I've looked up like 10 words on there and either didn't get a definition or couldn't make sense of it so I figure I'll just ask on here.

Ok I'll get rid of it haha.

[KM]

I'm tired so if what i say starts looking like gibberish....sorry.

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

How do the lungs excrete glucose?? Just by breathing or what? What's pyruvate?

Through other processes, it must convert the glucose into carbon dioxide.

Pyruvate..so; simply, glucose contains 6 carbons. When the carbons are split up (2 sets of 3 carbons), you form pyruvate. This is done within glycolysis.

Not to be difficult but in the 0-6 seconds if the exercise isn't intense than is the same system still enabled?

Nope. We're talking weight training here, which is an intense exercise alone. If it's 0-6 seconds with low-moderate intensity then little energy transfer is being done, however if it is, it's aerobic.



^^Table to show system activation. Look closely.

Could someone walk me through the ins and outs of how the phosphagen system works. Here's what I know, it's responsible for creating ATP in response to high intensity exercise. It uses creatine kinase and creatine phosphate to replenish ATP stores during rest periods between exercise. ATP is the main source of energy in humans, which I don't understand because other systems are used too.

First, here's a link for help within the metabolic energy systems: The Three Muscle Energy Systems and How to Train Them: A Conditioning: Tactical and Martial Arts article from Dragon Door Publications
^Oxidative = aerobic system, another technical name.

In regards to the ATP system.

Phosphocreatine is broken down by creatine kinase into simply a phosphate and a creatine molecule, this separation creates energy (this rate of energy we call a phosphagen). Afterwards (during rest itnervals), the phosphate is joined with ADP (2-DI-phosphates) and then converted to ATP (3-TRI-phosphates). The cycle continues..

Think: ADP+PC =ATP+C > the phosphate from the phosphocretien separation is used in the creatine of ATP.

Hope that helps.

Where you say Ag and aerobic glyco. system you mean aerobic and anaerobic glyco systems right?

Yep.

here's a VERY simplified way of thinking of glycolysis, we're getting into it here bro:

2 hydrogens > move to the mitochondria > unable to enter cell > rejoin with pyruvate (remember definition) which develops lactic acid. Pryruvic acid + hydrogen = lactic acid, causing the pH of the blood to drop.

Are triglycerides the only kinds of fats that can to broken down for energy and does this only happen in moderate intensity exercise like jogging like I remember from the HIIT thread? Or is triglycerides what their called after they're broken down?

Triglycerides is the storage form of bf. It is broken down when exercise suggests this. However, stress hormones can breakdown muscle as well (glucagon, cortisol, etc.).

Woah, that was a lot haha. Good night bro.

[Freak]

Glucose is compsed of 6 carbon atoms. Glycolysis breaks glucose down into (2) 3 carbon chains and eventually yields pyruvate.

1 Glucose molecule yields 2 pyruvate molecules.

[KM]

^^ good info. Thanks! ****'s hard.

[Freak]

I don't even understand all of it. Yes it is indeed.

[mperk]

Hey guys great thread! Mike I'm impressed that you read the book - I've got it too and to be honest only look at the pics and some of the explanations. Does seem dated but it's sure interesting when u consider it's 25+ years old. Like Oprah, Arnold is the king of marketing and self promotion...(Not that there is anything wrong with that!)

Great questions Mike - Kev,Brent & Tim - great answers - thanks!

[KM]

mike did we scare you away? lol