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Old 10-10-2008, 04:13 PM   #31
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Cosign. Just mix up the exercises you do from month to month and they'll be fine. I had no idea what I was doing when I started I just picked up and dumbbell and started curling. That's all you need to do.
ok first off thats not all there is to do is just pick up a dumbbell and start curling, its not any different then training your back or your chest or legs, so yea there is something to it, and the point of this talk is input on biceps,
thats why were here, to learn, to talk about what works and to share your ideas..
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:15 PM   #32
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yeah man awesome first post u just done (mikeh40+)
i do totally agree but due to it being my staple excersise when i was recovering its just one of those things i have to do:P
as for your other post a lot of people dont like listening to other peoples information or opinions:P
they just like to stick to their own plans and never take any1 else ideas and plans into consideration and they must be right (not aiming at anyone) but a lot of us (bodybuilders) need to stop being so naiive and negative towards other peoples opinons.
We are all here to learn new things.. well i am
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:29 PM   #33
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ok first off thats not all there is to do is just pick up a dumbbell and start curling, its not any different then training your back or your chest or legs, so yea there is something to it, and the point of this talk is input on biceps,
thats why were here, to learn, to talk about what works and to share your ideas..
Oh yeah you're defitently right, what I'm saying is that biceps aren't complex enough to really worry about all this different stuff. I got the peak and the split both from just random types of curls, so in my experience it's not hard to get. It might be genetics though for me.

I guess I'm trying to say that if you stick to the basics with biceps and keep at it consistently you'll get there and there isn't a whole lot more to biceps than that.
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:50 PM   #34
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yeah man awesome first post u just done (mikeh40+)
i do totally agree but due to it being my staple excersise when i was recovering its just one of those things i have to do:P
as for your other post a lot of people dont like listening to other peoples information or opinions:P
they just like to stick to their own plans and never take any1 else ideas and plans into consideration and they must be right (not aiming at anyone) but a lot of us (bodybuilders) need to stop being so naiive and negative towards other peoples opinons.
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yea but for the most part its a pretty good place, thanks for reading my thread, after your accident was the rest of your body in working order,since it was your staple exercise? I really dont understand how anyone can concider biceps not part of a planned program , what you just wake up one day knowing how to properly train them, i dont think so, yes the mechanics to moving the arm into a curl position is pretty basic, but lets face it who here started bodybuilding knowing what they know now? How do we get the knowledge to train correctly? Its not something your genetics can teach you,so like everyone else either you read up on how to train each body part correctly or you watch someone at the gym or ask questions, doesnt matter what body part your training, you need some information or insight as to what exercise does what to which area, otherwise whats the use of having a workout routine? there is a proper way to curl a dumbbell/barbell and a incorrect way, the proper way will give you greater results since you learned not to use your whole body to swing the weight up, bottom line is you needed some insight into training the bicep`s , not how to move the weight from down to up, advice and wisdom, its what makes a average bodybuilder into a great bodybuilder,.

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Oh yeah you're defitently right, what I'm saying is that biceps aren't complex enough to really worry about all this different stuff. I got the peak and the split both from just random types of curls, so in my experience it's not hard to get. It might be genetics though for me.

I guess I'm trying to say that if you stick to the basics with biceps and keep at it consistently you'll get there and there isn't a whole lot more to biceps than that.
mike , if it was that easy then why so many training video`s and research on the bicep training??
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:15 PM   #35
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^ Because everyone's most concerned about biceps. It's not really easy but it's only as simple as I said. Do a different type of curl every month do 4 sets or so of 8-12 reps twice a week.

No disrespect bro, we just see it from different points of view. Maybe it just came easy for me who know, but that's all I did and it worked well.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:27 PM   #36
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^ Because everyone's most concerned about biceps. It's not really easy but it's only as simple as I said. Do a different type of curl every month do 4 sets or so of 8-12 reps twice a week.

No disrespect bro, we just see it from different points of view. Maybe it just came easy for me who know, but that's all I did and it worked well.
none taken mike, but you just kinda contradicted your self, how did you learn the different types of curls? you never looked at a magazine or saw anyone doing them? you just picked up a dumbbell and knew what a hammer curl was or to do an incline bench curl, and preacher curls, if you knew all that before seeing anyone else do them, then hats off to you my friend, but remember not everyone is the same and need some advice bro
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:54 PM   #37
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Eh I don't really think I did, I may have over simplified a bit. I mean my dad told me this is how to do preachers this is how to do inclinre and this is how to do preachers.

Biceps are easier to train than say back because the back is a much bigger muscle with 7 different muscles to it, well trainable ones. The bicep is two heads that while they do take some thought to train not much. And I can pretty much promise any beginner that with good dieting good sleep and changing up the bicep exercise every month you'll have the split and a peak. Provided you have to genes for it.

**** I don't every train biceps any more and I see the split and peak building from my other exercises, which is another reason I feel they are simple.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:56 PM   #38
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Okay dudes - time for me to jump in - cause i got one peak, one no peak - i agree that if you focus on the weaker arm you may be able to bring it up, but a lot depends on genetics, just like with abs - they are not necessarily symetrical.

mike has a good point about having a plan - cause there is a huge variety of bi & tri exercises - depending on what you are used to one may be more effective than the other. Check out some of those articals in M&F or MD about the different heads, etc.

In the end, go with good form, go heavy and change it up if it's not working. (true with tri's too!)
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:00 PM   #39
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^ Very true, which Mike? lol. Yeah man I have awesome genetics for biceps, but some of the worst for abs I have like a four pack, not even visable but like there's 4 abs and that's it lol wtf??
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[quote=MikeNYY420;593945] . I mean my dad told me this is how to do preachers this is how to do inclinre and this is how to do preachers.
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^^^ see someone told you how to train... and this is getting no where, mike my man, we are at a stand still so to speak, so time to move on and grow some muscle..
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:20 PM   #41
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^ Agreed that was fun haha. But.. nah I'll drop it hah.
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