The Variety in pulldowns ??

Q80_MuscleHed · 07-04-2005, 01:49 PM

Is there any benefits of the variety of pulldowns .. ( front - behind the neck - close grip under hand - neutral grip ) ?

**fahad** · 07-04-2005, 02:06 PM

behind the neck pulldowns hits more the middle and lower traps...to the front hits more the lats...scrowl down and read this links:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...22/ai_n6093075

pumpingiron · 07-04-2005, 02:15 PM

I always performed wide grip pulldowns but never got big lats... So after watching Dorian Blood & Guts I thought, maybe I should try close grip underhand with a EZ bar. And since I've been doing them my lats are fuller and bigger. My favorite lat exercise next to straight arm pulldowns.

StayBig · 07-04-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fahad

behind the neck pulldowns hits more the middle and lower traps...to the front hits more the lats...scrowl down and read this links:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...22/ai_n6093075

Fahad is right with this, I also notice is hit mostly my rear and medial delts as well as upper traps while doing it behind the neck, and I can't get a really good contraction like that, I'm trying not to do anything behind my neck or body anymore cuz I fucked up my neck really bad doing shit like that. It could work for you but I think it's too risky. I really don't like lat pulldowns anymore I just do chin-ups in it's place if I opt to do them on a back day, I gives a better workout in my opinion. As for using a close grip, I'm pretty sure the closer you go in the more biceps it's actually hitting than back. I'm not sure, but I believe if it makes no difference between overhand or underhand grip, just exeriment w/ what works best for your body type and you'll be happy. Don't worry about how others train. Good Luck q80

Topgun · 07-04-2005, 09:52 PM

I have always avoided doing pulldowns behind the neck. It feels unnatural and also puts a strain on the rotartor cuff. Reverse grip pulldowns are a fav of mine and I feel they fill out the lower latts and allow you to squeez them alot more.

I agree with staybig, pullups are king in a wide back.

**fahad** · 07-04-2005, 11:39 PM

i think behind the neck pulldowns is great for the middle and lower trap area as long as u do it right...

eli80cal · 07-05-2005, 06:56 AM

I love pull ups. I alternate close grip and wide grip pull ups per workout, along with close grip/wide grip pull downs. (wide grip pull ups with close grip pull downs, or opposite) the wide grips I feel in my upper lats for sure, and the close grip always leave me sore at the bottom.

Q80_MuscleHed · 07-05-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Topgun

I have always avoided doing pulldowns behind the neck. It feels unnatural and also puts a strain on the rotartor cuff. Reverse grip pulldowns are a fav of mine and I feel they fill out the lower latts and allow you to squeez them alot more.

I agree with staybig, pullups are king in a wide back.

me too .. i don't like behind the neck .. and i do chins in the begining of my workout and then a i do close grip over hand pull downs

18inchGun · 07-05-2005, 04:26 PM

weighted pullups are excellent imo

jumk · 07-06-2005, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by q80_muscleHed

Is there any benefits of the variety of pulldowns .. ( front - behind the neck - close grip under hand - neutral grip ) ?

you should pick the variety that allows you to use the most weight.
for most people this is a parallel grip pullup or supenated grip pullup,
Fuck the pulldowns.

Q80_MuscleHed · 07-06-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jumk

you should pick the variety that allows you to use the most weight.
for most people this is a parallel grip pullup or supenated grip pullup,
Fuck the pulldowns.

pull ups are the king as folks said

Q80_MuscleHed · 07-07-2005, 12:45 PM

hey guys .. i found this thread from .. it has a lot of informations about pullups :

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio5.htm

therealgame · 07-07-2005, 06:24 PM

believe it or not i do chinups useing the TOTAL GYM before i go into the gym to do back..it really warms me up ......

StayBig · 07-07-2005, 08:54 PM

I agree with Jumk in a way. I really don't like doing pulldowns anymore cause your doing more when you do chin-ups. I also feel it hit my medial delts more when I'm doing chin-ups. If you don't have a weight machine to help you with chins, then try putting a stool under the chin-up bar, and use a little of your body weight to help. That's my version of doing it at home cuz I don't go to the gym, too many people waste my fucking time. I have dumbbells that go up to 240lbs. in my house. No fucking joke. Ronnie aint got shit on me. (No I can't lift 240, my max is 120lb. on bench, but I have them for when I know I'm gonna get bigger.)