[MikeNYY420]

Right now I'm doing my shoulder stuff on chest and tricep day. After I do all my benching and stuff for the day I do a military press for 3 sets of about 8 reps at 70lbs, then I do arnold presses with 30lbs dumbbells for about 8 reps, then I do bent over dumbbell raises with 25lbs for about 10 reps.

Now what I'm trying to do is incorporate shoulder presses into that without overtraining and with me still being able to work my rear delts well. I think that rear delts complete my arm so I have to keep something for those in the routine and I just started doing arnold presses and I'm liking those, but I could take those out. I'm wondering does anyone know any other rear delt exercises, maybe that work the entire shoulder muscle too? And what routine you guys have had success with?

Thanks

[love 2 lift]

I have a shoulder day-

shrugs<rotate front and behind back every workout>
behind neck seated press
standing barbell press
rear lat machine light weight a lot of reps
dumbell front raises
dumbell side laterals<burnout- down the rack until 5 lbs>

I do throw arnold presses in every few workouts

[Cricket_Fire]

I've got very weak shoulders, so take this with a grain of salt haha, but I'm loving these right now :)

YouTube - George Halbert - Rotator Work

[WorkoutGuru]

A really good shoulder lift is the front barbell raise, laying down on your stomach. Set the bench to a 30 or 45 degree angle, stomach down, knees on the seat, feet crossed. Grab light weight and raise it until the bar and your back are on the same plane (30 or 45 degrees). Control it back down and repeat. Remember to keep good form and don't look at yourself in the mirror too much, keep your face down to maintain your form as good as possible.

This is a great overall shoulder workout (more emphasis on the front delts) and also targets the lower traps.