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Old 05-26-2008, 09:17 PM   #1
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I need to get more cardio in, trying to cut, but was wondering if it would be bad to do a quick 20 to 30mins HIIT about 2 hours before lifting, or would I be better off waiting to the evening to get cardio in?
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:44 PM   #2
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u could not have as much energy for ur weight training. why not just do it after?
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:44 PM   #3
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I definitely wouldn't do that on a leg day. Personally I wait to do cardio after I workout so that the cardio doesn't intrude on the level of exercise that I can perform.

I just would really suggest you steer clear of the "before you eat" cardio.
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:20 PM   #4
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One problem is my gym opens at 8am, I need to be back home by a little after 9am for the whole work thing, so my cardio would have to come about 8pm at night. I read a lot, which opinions very it seems on it, but cardio first thing on an empty stomach is best, I honestly would hate doing cardio at 6am in the morning and then go to the gym 2hrs later. Just was wondering if it was a good idea or bad, so far census says wait, which I am def happy about.
 
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:55 PM   #5
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do it at night then. not a big deal
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:15 AM   #6
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One problem is my gym opens at 8am, I need to be back home by a little after 9am for the whole work thing, so my cardio would have to come about 8pm at night. I read a lot, which opinions very it seems on it, but cardio first thing on an empty stomach is best, I honestly would hate doing cardio at 6am in the morning and then go to the gym 2hrs later. Just was wondering if it was a good idea or bad, so far census says wait, which I am def happy about.
This is my problem with cardio before you eat. How many times have you heard "If you wake up early, do not eat, go to the gym and walk instead of break your fast and supply your body with some nutrients"?

How long are your workouts to begin with? If I were you, I would just add in the HIIT immediatly after you workout. 15 minutes and it raises metabolism through the whole day. Then you eat your postworkout meal as usual.
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Old 05-27-2008, 03:21 AM   #7
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Could you not get an exercise bike and do it at home. Also cardio is more for health to get the heart pumping. If you want to loose some fat diet is the biggest factor.
 
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Old 05-27-2008, 03:32 AM   #8
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diet and cardio, go hand in hand when it comes to losing weight, yes diet is the 1st thing, but you cant forget about cardio as its a godsend of weight loss also.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:03 AM   #9
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Got my diet in check with everyones help on here, just need to pick up the cardio now and would like to try and get it in everyday. If 15mins of HIIT can do the job I might be able to get it in after weights, I will give a try, if not will just no worry to much and get it in when I can. Thanks for the help all.
 
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:23 AM   #10
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All you guys seem to dislike cardio before breakfast ive done it and it worked awesome for me as soon as i was done i had a shake and got that protein into my body as quick as i could this also leaves you the whole day to eat and replenish glycogen levels which are essential for lifting with intensity in the gym. The best thing about doing cardio in the morning is your body is forced to give up its fat stores as energy due to no carbs for fuel and no stored glycogen either. But i will say cardio after a workout works almost as good because you deplete you glycogen levels as you pump iron. Anyway theres something for you to think about...
 
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15 mins of HIIT, is fine, but id throw one day of LI(light intensity) in there just to switch it up a bit.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:11 PM   #12
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All you guys seem to dislike cardio before breakfast ive done it and it worked awesome for me as soon as i was done i had a shake and got that protein into my body as quick as i could this also leaves you the whole day to eat and replenish glycogen levels which are essential for lifting with intensity in the gym. The best thing about doing cardio in the morning is your body is forced to give up its fat stores as energy due to no carbs for fuel and no stored glycogen either. But i will say cardio after a workout works almost as good because you deplete you glycogen levels as you pump iron. Anyway theres something for you to think about...
This is my whole dilema with doing cardio before you eat breakfast.

I don't know how many people wake up in the middle of the night to get a protein shake in, but I certainly don't, so when I don't have any protein for 8 hours, the top priority for me is to get protein.

How many people actually use up their entire glycogen stores in one workout? How many people don't get any carbs after they workout and until they go to sleep? How many people hit "the wall" or the point where their glycogen stores are used up completely like endurance runners/swimmers?

The only places where i've personally seen where fat is turned into the major fuel source is during ketogenic diets which take 2-3 days to get into, in runners/swimmers that switch over when they body sees an energy crisis, or steady cardio which the body will use fat for a fuel source since it doesn't have to exert large amounts of force.

And I like this little excerpt and article

Bodybuilding.com - Layne Norton - A Unique Combination Of Science And Experience Based Pre-Contest Advice.

"Cardiovascular exercise has several myths surrounding it. The largest myth being that one should perform low intensity cardio in a fasted state. The logic being that if one is in a fasted state, their glycogen levels will be low and will force their body to burn fat. Unfortunately, this idea is misguided.

While performing cardio in a fasted state may indeed increase the amount of calories that are burned from fat stores, it will also increase amino acid oxidation. Cardiovascular exercise while in a fasted state is a great way to increase cortisol release. Cortisol will liberate amino acids to produce glucose (glucose cannot be synthesized from fats) and can lead to muscle loss.

Additionally, I find it ironic that many people take such great care to time their meals so that they do not go for more than 2-3 hours without eating in order to prevent muscle loss. However, they purposefully induce this state and then perform work on top of this! "
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