[BigHulkDiesel]

Hey guys! Just wondering everyons opinion on Training splits. Also training frequency. Keep in mind I am looking for mass and strength, not cutting. THANKS!

[Ironslave]

no such things. If there was, everybody would be doing it.

[BigHulkDiesel]

I am not asking for the exact one, I am asking what type of routine is best used, like back on a sepearate day then bi's, shoulders sepearate from chest, all seperate or what? Just looking for Opinions.

[Q80_MuscleHed]

the best thing work for me is training podypart each 7 days .. and here is my schule :

sat : chest and abs
san: back ( i alternate between back for width and for thickness i do each one every other week ) and calfs
mon: rest or low intensity cardio for 30 minutes and abs
tues: shoulders traps and calfs
wed: arms with abs
thrus: legs with calfs
fri: full rest
and that's work fine for me

[sword chucks]

I like a more frequent routine personally like this

chest/back
shoulders/arms
calves/legs
off


i also got good results from a less frequent program like this

chest/tris
back/bis
off
shoulders/traps
legs
off
off

whatever u feel like doing keep the volume at a medium level and up it as u see fit

[jumk]

lift big poundages

[Q80_MuscleHed]

Originally Posted by jumk

lift big poundages

simple and effective answer :)

[Banshee20]

To clarify a bit, you can lift for either mass or strength. (think powerlifting vs. bodybuilding) Most people do both. When your sets are 12-10-8-6, you are lifting for both. Eat well, and eat lots. Lift hard, and lift heavy. Stick with compound moves. Another option you have is to wake up at 2 am and eat. I used to keep a cooler next to my bed with a kitchen timer. I had a shake in it just made from milk, nonfat milk powder, and a little chocolate syrup (ghetto, but effective) I went from 205 to 240 in the space of about 3-4 months.If you are a hardgainer, this may be one of the things that wil allow you to get in all the calories you need. I first started doing this because we had to train at 5am for football and I could never eat before. Hope this helps.

[Banshee20]

Sorry, our computer was signed in to my wifes ID. Eli80cal went form 205-240, not her.

[pumpingiron]

That's individual... Trial & Error

[BIG RC]

one of my best mass rountines is also the same one I do when I'm cutting:
Monday- (am) back,biceps
(pm) shoulders,traps,calves
Tuesday- legs,abs
Wednesday- chest,triceps,calves
Thursday- back,biceps,shoulders
Friday- light leg,calves
Saturday- chest,triceps

[Void]

Originally Posted by BIG RC

one of my best mass rountines is also the same one I do when I'm cutting:
Monday- (am) back,biceps
(pm) shoulders,traps,calves
Tuesday- legs,abs
Wednesday- chest,triceps,calves
Thursday- back,biceps,shoulders
Friday- light leg,calves
Saturday- chest,triceps

Can you say overtraining?
minimum 2 days off a week for mass bro

[Amped]

I am a shift worker. iwork rotating 4 on 12hr and 4 off.
day 1-chest
day 2-legs
day 3-back/shoulders
day 4-arms

Abs day 1 and day 3

[SDEWITT]

what about:

Chest/bis
Legs
Back/tris
Shoulders/calves
Bis/tris
off
off

Too much?