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Old 04-15-2008, 09:48 PM   #1
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Ok so I've been doing a lot of reading about this (here and on google) and this is what I've come up with. The lines in red is what I'm NOT sure about and need advice on.

Elbows Tucked IN

- More stress on the triceps
- More stress on the front delts
- Still gives chest a good workout

Elbows Flared OUT (like parallel to the bar)

- Only do if it feels comfortable
- Less stress on the triceps
- Less stress on the shoulders
- Put almost all stress on chest, thus giving it a better workout
- Not good for rotator cuff?
- Not healthy for shoulders

Elbows Partially Tucked in

- Still involves more triceps
- A little easier on the shoulders
- A better choice than the top 2 options??


I started asking these questions because I always thought flaring your elbows out was bad for the rotator cuff, but in this video... The fit show interface ver 2 ... he said to make your arms almost parallel to the bar for best chest results. BTW thanks for posting that vid johnnyairwaves.

So yah guys i need help here
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:00 PM   #2
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Tucked in does more triceps, but too flared out causes rotator cuff injuries.

It's more of a personal choice
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:07 PM   #3
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I have a awesome book im just reading and it says flared out to maximize pec isolation.

under range of motion it says a shorter rep termintaing the press before lock out keeps tension on the pecs and reduces the amount of triceps assistance.
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:11 PM   #4
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flared out has a higher risk of rotator cuff injuries though.

if you fuck those up, you're out of comission for awhile
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:18 PM   #5
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Actually,

A wide grip and the elbows flared out does not recruit the pecs any more than a normal grip and the elbows held semi-tucked. In fact, flaring your elbows recruits more of your front delts than having them semi-tucked.

If you want, PM me your email and I'll send you the study reviews in PDF format.

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I have a awesome book im just reading and it says flared out to maximize pec isolation.

under range of motion it says a shorter rep termintaing the press before lock out keeps tension on the pecs and reduces the amount of triceps assistance.
this is how I do them.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:00 PM   #7
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Actually,

A wide grip and the elbows flared out does not recruit the pecs any more than a normal grip and the elbows held semi-tucked. In fact, flaring your elbows recruits more of your front delts than having them semi-tucked.

If you want, PM me your email and I'll send you the study reviews in PDF format.

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really? I dont understand how that would use more front delt... ill pm u
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:16 PM   #8
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flared out has a higher risk of rotator cuff injuries though.

if you fuck those up, you're out of comission for awhile
thats the thing tho, it just risks it, it doesnt mean you're going to tear it you know? But also risking tearing it doesnt sound good either... but what im thinking is, if you tear your rotator cuff.... wouldn't the range of motion feel uncomfortable to begin with? like before u tear it.... like if your doing the reps and u feel find with no pain, can't you just keep doing it?
 
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what book was that islander?
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:22 PM   #10
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flared out has a higher risk of rotator cuff injuries though.

if you fuck those up, you're out of comission for awhile
I'm almost sure this is what happened to me, which lead to the possible bursitis im now nursing.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:28 PM   #11
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and Blitz just proved my point
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:35 PM   #12
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i was going to ask did you do behind the neck stuff blitz?
 
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