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Old 06-18-2005, 06:54 PM   #1
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hey guys wut do u think about am pm training split...does any 1 uses it here..and could u give me eg. on 3 on 1 off am pm training split..cuz soon am gonna move closer to my gym and am thinking to change my training to am pm...thx alot...
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:16 PM   #2
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fahad --

I know you have probably seen this on cutlers vid - he does it all the time. Personally, I wouldnt even want to LOOK at weights for a second time after a hard workout that day and I also think it is not very helpful. Keep a regular split, fool around with different training types and thatīll work better.......no need to be a gym rat - you still have a DIFFERENT LIFE! (I guess ).
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Old 06-19-2005, 12:22 AM   #3
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I think its ok to train in the AM and PM. It just all depends on what and how you are training. I like to do all my cardio and light weight work in the morning. Then heavy in the PM. If I work shoulders and traps realy heavy on a sunday night I will work them out light on a monday morning after my cardio. Then monday night I might work chest, then tuesday morning do light chest, etc. But it realy all comes down to how you like to train. The gym is my second home, I work there, and also lift there. I'd probly live there if they would let me........................maybe thats somethin i could check into LOL

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Old 06-19-2005, 06:40 AM   #4
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i wish to have time to do am pm training .. but there is no time .. i'm doing cardio in the morning and comeback to gym to workout afternoon
 
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:33 AM   #5
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i say try it, if it doesn't work then go back to what you were doing before. there is nothing really to loose and who knows it might be extremely effective for you.
 
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:14 AM   #6
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Im a big fan of this way fahad.
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 01:20 AM   #7
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Some of my best gains ever were training in an AM-PM split. My only advice is to make sure they are fast and furious. You should have less to accomplsh with each workout (overall sets wise)so you can hit it faster and harder, and with more intensity and focus. Plus, its two chances per day for a post workout meal. How many times per week are you looking to train each bodypart?
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:02 AM   #8
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I think if you just get into the gym your doing a good job. I don't think the time of day makes a difference. Change it up keep the muscles guessing that's my philosophy.
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:43 AM   #9
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Some of my best gains ever were training in an AM-PM split. My only advice is to make sure they are fast and furious. You should have less to accomplsh with each workout (overall sets wise)so you can hit it faster and harder, and with more intensity and focus. Plus, its two chances per day for a post workout meal. How many times per week are you looking to train each bodypart?
am training 3 on 1 off so i give each body part 3 days to recover before i hitted again.....
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:49 AM   #10
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am thinking like:

am pm
1) back,traps shoulders
2) chest arms
3) quads,abs hams,calves
4) off
5) Repeat cycle
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:51 AM   #11
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If you are not on the dope, this will lead to overtraining. Just when the body wants to recover, you're going back to the gym again. And you feel strong again at PM so you are at risk that you will do too much for only 1 muscle.

Also 3 days on 1 day off If you don't want to make ANY kind of gain you should do this. This statement on itself is a proof that you WILL be overtraining. Especially if you're gonna train with much intensity (I think that that is what you do) your body needs rest!

you should make it -> Monday, Tuesday, and Friday or something like that. If you train your ass off on these days, and I am talking about "intensity" and NOT volume, buddy you are gonna make gains beyond anything you'd ever imagine.
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:15 AM   #12
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If you are not on the dope, this will lead to overtraining. Just when the body wants to recover, you're going back to the gym again. And you feel strong again at PM so you are at risk that you will do too much for only 1 muscle.

Also 3 days on 1 day off If you don't want to make ANY kind of gain you should do this. This statement on itself is a proof that you WILL be overtraining. Especially if you're gonna train with much intensity (I think that that is what you do) your body needs rest!

you should make it -> Monday, Tuesday, and Friday or something like that. If you train your ass off on these days, and I am talking about "intensity" and NOT volume, buddy you are gonna make gains beyond anything you'd ever imagine.
hey bro thx for your advice....but before i used to train everything once a week but i felt that this was undertrining and since i started to train with more frequancy i started making more gains faster....cus big muscle needs 48 hours to recover and smaller muscles needs 24 hours to recover plus the central nervous system needs more time to recover so i give each muscle 3 days to recover which is somehow more than requared but i dont just in case but not only that...i want for my nervous system to recover which is y i take every fourth day off...........and could u explain this a lil better..(Just when the body wants to recover, you're going back to the gym again. And you feel strong again at PM so you are at risk that you will do too much for only 1 muscle.)..thx......
 
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Old 06-21-2005, 07:15 AM   #13
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Yeah bro, I will try to explain ok? My English isn't THAT good, sorry for that.

If you train in the morning, and you train heavy and with high intensity, the training demands A LOT from a natural human body. Like a guy said it before in here, you should train fast and furious. The only thing that'll make you grow after a workout is A LOT of rest. You won't get that rest, if you take your body in a catabolic phase 2 times a day. Because that is what you are doing with training, you are destroying muscle tissue. And with the right amount of rest those muscles will heal, and will get bigger. But with this plan that you have of training 6 days a week, you are more focussing on destroying muscles than to build them. I have tried things like that too. But it's SUCH a strain on your body and indeed on your nerve system that you WILL be overtraining. You're only building muscle, and the next time you are making them smaller because they didn't get the chance to recover.

And there's something else, if you only train 1 muscle at the time, it's obvious that you will damage that muscle too much. Because you will go into the gym with the attitude: I only have to train chest this morning, yeah, so I am gonna throw bombs on it. And before you know, you are doing like 4/6 exercises and 3/4 sets per exercise only for a LITTLE chest muscle. You will damage that muscle so much, that it will never get as big as it could be. ESPECIALLY if you're training 3 days on and only 1 day off. That's how pro's train, but everybody knows that won't work for us. And if you don't make good gains with each muscle only 1 time a week, it's possible that you don't train heavy enough. That you are concentrating on the volume too much instead of the intensity. If that's the case then I can understand that you make more gains with training each muscle 2 times a week. But the flipside to that coin is, that you are like 3/5 hours a week EXTRA in the gym to get those gains is that worth it?

just try something like this, It'll be worth trying believe me:

monday legs and calves:

leg extension 2 sets of 20 SLOW reps.
squats 3 sets of 6/10 reps
stiff legged deadlift 2 sets of 10/12 reps
sitting calve raises 3 sets of 20 SLOW reps

if you are doing it with the right intensity, and heavy enough, you WON'T come back the same week to train legs again you understand what I am trying to say?

tuesday chest, arms and abs

benchpress 3 sets of 6/8 reps
incline dumbbell press 2 sets (first set light, and the second set, give it all you've got)

barbell curl 2 sets of 8/12 SLOW reps (especially focus on the slow negative reps, just try it, you will be amazed at the gains on you're biceps)
one arm dumbell preacher curl 1 or 2 sets of 10 slow reps

triceps cable pushdown 2 sets of 10/12 slow reps
sitting 1 arm dumbell behind head triceps extension 2 sets of 6/10 reps

crunches 3 sets

And now 2 days of well-deserved rest, you're gonna need it if you trained with the right intensity. With those 2 days off you will be so well recovered and motivated that you will train with ferocious intensity on friday.

friday back, shoulders and abs

reverse grip cable pulldown 2 sets of 8/10 slow reps
bent-over barbell rowing (you can also do this on the smithmachine, I feel that exercise 2 times better if I do it on the smithmachine) 3 sets of 6/10 reps.

neckpress 3 sets of 6/8 reps
side raises 2 sets of 10 SLOW reps
shrugs 2 sets of 10 slow reps

crunches combined with dumbell side bends 3 sets of 20 reps

don't be prejudiced and just try it, if you don't like it after only 1 week I will be surprised!
 
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