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Old 09-15-2007, 02:18 PM   #1
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ive been using my ez grip bar for a while and it built my biceps pretty strong, the other day i tried doing the same weight on a barbell and looked like an idiot, so dropped down to 80 when on an ez grip i can pull off 100, whats the diffeence? and which one will help me with mass?
 
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:41 PM   #2
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The difference is the way your wrists and arms are positioned when you use the EZ bar vs a straight bar.

Do this. Put your right palm facing down to the floor, have your right arm positioned in the same way as you would when in bicep curl position. Now put your left fingers on your right bicep and turn your palm up until its straight up.

When your palm is fully straight up you'll notice that your bicep is the most tensed. So it might be that a persons arms use additional muscles when their arms aren't exactly straight up.
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:45 PM   #3
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Similar logic to how a preacher curl works with further isolating the biceps by changing the position of the arms.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:47 PM   #4
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you are an idiot, how do you not know the difference between barbell curls and ez grip curls.
 
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:52 PM   #5
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i heard EZ bars work more on the bicep peak
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:55 PM   #6
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thanks bhana, so barbell is for mass and ez grip for peak? or thats what im understanding, correct me if im wrong, oh btw, mygeetoisgay if anyone here is an idiot it would be you my friend.
 
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:55 AM   #7
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I dont use the barbell at all, i keep my arms pretty straight when i do dumbel preachers and concentrations, but the barbell stuffs my wrists.
 
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:59 AM   #8
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for some reason i feel like a stronger burn after using the barbell more than the ez grip. any ideas why?
 
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:01 AM   #9
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your biceps have a big impact on the rotation of your forearms... so using the barbell uses more of the bicep, because your forearms are rotates out to their limit.
 
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:07 AM   #10
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I think Merza just passed my post completly or I confused him
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:09 AM   #11
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i think i got it, but it kinda confused me as well at the start.
 
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i had to read it twice haha
 
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:11 AM   #13
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Basically same thing you said, I just tried to explain the mechanics of it, as your palm is closer to where its facing upwards more of the bicep is used because of how its involved in the rotation. As long as the point is taken its all good
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