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Old 08-16-2007, 11:15 AM   #1
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I have heard this argued two ways... One being that you should work your triceps on a seperate day after you work the chest. Another is that you should do chest, wait 2-3 days and then work triceps.
So, if I were to do chest one day...would it benefit me to wait and to triceps a couple days later or can they be worked hard the next day?
I like doing dips on my triceps day along with skullcrushers and close grip bench. But some say that dips are for chest. If my chest routine looks like this:
Flat Bench DB Press
Incline DB Press
Cable Crossover/BD Flyes
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:17 AM   #2
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Would I be hurting recovery by doing weighted dips the very next day?
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:54 AM   #3
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1- every exercise you perform (other than the pec-deck fly's) to work the chest, is going to be using your tri's for additional support so give them at least 48 hours rest before you decide to go all out on them. 48 hours is enough time for your tri's to be recovered, as they haven't taken a severe punishment from being worked to their limit.

2 - i just answered this :)

also if you are doing dips it's working a number of muscles. try tilting your body foward with a wide grip next time you do them and notice it will hit your chest alot more. keep your body vertical and your grip narrow and it's hitting your tri's with the same kind of movement that you do during a skull crusher. its all about technique.

personally, i blast my tri's straight after a chest workout...
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:04 PM   #4
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There are really few logical splits you can do. What excercises are you going to do for chest that don't effect the tri's (and the shoulders)? If you do any sort of bench, tris are responsible for the majority of the lifting once the bar is more than a few inches off your chest, moreso with dumbbells. This goes for shoulders too. Don't fall into this trap that you're going to hit a specific muscle. You can isolate your chest to a degree doing flys sure, but it won't be a good workout
Second, consider your recuperation abilities. How many days do you need to wait between chest and tris. In that time, is your chest ready again?

Here's a good split:
Chest and shoulders and triceps
back (includes traps) and biceps
leg and lower back (erectors, not lats and such)

and that's it.
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:09 PM   #5
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As above. Don't train triceps the day after a chest workout. I'd wait at least 72hrs.
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:23 PM   #6
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I think christopherryan made a good point that if you are recovered to work your triceps after a few days then maybe you could be working your chest again.
So I think it's best to just add some tricep work on the same day you train chest.
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:17 PM   #7
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Could you guys pls post your chest rut?
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:51 AM   #8
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Wait 2 days after chest workout to workout your triceps, unless you training triceps right after chest. Then limit your sets, so you dont overtrain your triceps. Your triceps recieve some stress with the chest presses already, so dont over strained them
 
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:12 AM   #9
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id workout chest and tricep on diffrent days, especially if one of them are lagging. Id give them 2 days apart at least because they almost always work together.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:21 AM   #10
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Example of my heavy mesocycle:

Bench: 5x4-5
Incl. Bench: 3x5
Weighted Dips: 2x5

Do this for a period of time, then I adjust the volume and weights slightly to go for a lighter weight with greater reps.
 
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:13 AM   #11
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i dont see nothing wrong with hitting triceps after chest day espeacialy if your triceps really dont get hit from doing chest, example: for me i will never work biceps after back day because my biceps get a lot of stress put on them from that back workout
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:21 AM   #12
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you use your triceps in any chest pushing movement, just like you use your biceps in any back pulling movement
 
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:35 AM   #13
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Yeah, any bench press, push up, and dip you do workout your triceps and front delts. Flyes and pull over are fine, does not effect your triceps
 
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:36 AM   #14
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Heres a split you can use its what I use

Day 1 - Chest
Day 2 - Legs/Biceps
Day 3 - Rest
Day 4 - Shoulders/Trap/Tri's
Day 5 - Back/Calves
Day 6 - Rest
Day 7 - Repeat Day 1 through 6.
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