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Old 08-11-2007, 02:13 AM   #1
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Hi I am looking to realy bulk up fast,
I am 17 and weigh 187 lbs
I would like help picking the right training program for me to achieve the best results, At the moment i train 3 days a week mon chest/back,delts, wed bi/tri and traps,
and legs on friday.
I know this is working because i am sore in that muscle until the next time i work it out if that makes sense.
I do pyramids, drop sets and super sets of pretty much each exercise and am taking protien supplements.

I guess im looking for any infomation that will help me build muscle faster, and advice on my current training. Also info on the whole bulk then cut thing whats going on there? i just wanna get massive lol

cheers.
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:38 AM   #2
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change your training too
Mon- Chest/tris/front delts/side delts
Wed- Back/bis/rear delts/traps
Fri-Legs

If this doesnt start working better then try 4 days, mon-chest tris, tues-back/bis, thurs legs, friday-shoulders/traps.

Up your calorie intake.. but this will also put on body fat, and i dont like your chances of putting on heaps of lean muscle fast without bodyfat unless you're juicing.

so yeah, just eat clean and eat a lot and lift heavy
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:02 AM   #3
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Wow, everyone asks this question right out of the gate. Can you only go 3 days a week?
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:02 AM   #4
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thanks mate, with the delt what exercises differ the side delts from front delts etc? is that just like frontal lateral rises and side raises?
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:44 AM   #5
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Or Military presses, behing the neck presses, DB presses, etc. Most vertical pressing motions build delt mass.
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:59 AM   #6
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3 things to focus on: Solid routine, solid diet, and good rest.
Routine: stick to compound excercises (bench, squat, rows, deadlifts, dips, mil press, etc). I understand this is a bodybuilding board, but try not to target individual muscles unless they are truly weak. Instead for your back and bi's day do things like: Pullups, rows etc, with maybe a few sets of some bicep specific excercise at the end. No more then 10-12 total sets per musclegroup, using rep ranges from 4-10 per set (depending on if you want to focus more on strength or size). Low rest times (1.5 to 2 minutes, at most) will stimulate size gains.

Diet: general guidelines, figure out what you need to eat everyday and add 300-400 calories to it. Another way is to multiply your weight in lbs by 13 to 16 for an approximation, adjust from there. .8 to 1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight, spread throughout the day. 1 gram of fiber per 100 calories (this will be more fiber than most are getting, but this is inline with what "they" say you should get). Beyond these guidelines, eat vegetables and a wide variety of foods, not just junk, although it's easy to get your daily calories through junk food. Don't become one of these people who eats the same exact thing everyday for a year. You can do that for a month or so but mix it up so your body can get rid of excess minerals and get more of that which it isn't currently getting. A good multivitamin once a day or everyother day is a good thing as well.

Rest: I need at least 8 hours, I know some lucky people who can get 5-6 and function just fine. Make sure you get enough. The gym is a stimulus. The reaction to that stimulus, creating muscle, occurs outside of the gym. Too many people don't get the results they want and therefore get too caught up in the routine part, they talk about "shocking muscles" or doing crazy stuff when they should be questioning whether their diet and recovery is really where it should be.

Also, last thing. Being sore indicates that your muscles are beaten up. That's it. It does not indicate the effectiveness of your training. Neither does getting a "pump" absolutely indicate that your muscles are being trained effectively. In any other context, soreness would indicate to you that something is wrong. Being a little stiff/sore, feeling like you lifted yesterday isn't bad, but don't use it as an indicator of how well your training is coming.
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:24 AM   #7
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Good post Chrstopherryan. It amazes me that people say they had a good workout because there muscles are sore. You should base your results on strength gains.

If your training is working then only make small changes. Try drop sets, this is when you finnish a set with as many reps as possible you drop the weight a little like if you had 100kg drop to 80kg and then due as many reps as possible with that.
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:46 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Fitz O'rourke View Post
Hi I am looking to realy bulk up fast,.......

.....i just wanna get massive lol

cheers.
Inject heavy doses Sustanon, Dianabol, and Deca Durabolin.....then do what ever shitty workout program you desire, increasing weights liberally with each workout.....should do the trick......
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:21 PM   #9
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LOL... what if he doesnt get the joke :P
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:22 PM   #10
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then he's fu&*ed
 
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:32 PM   #11
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haha very true
 
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:57 PM   #12
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