[bulk then cut]

wat do u train shoulders with? ex. back+biceps, also can you post your shoulder routine plz? i need alot of help with my dam delts =D thank you all!

[chrispghmuscle]

I train my shoulders with my traps, IMO, there tide together and you can really hit them hard if you want.

[Kirk]

just varied, now doing shoulders with bi's...sounds weird, and it is...but it works great for the couple weeks im doing it, again just to vary

[USCfb11]

i have two splits that i rotate and tweak every few weeks:
1) chest with shoulders (cuz you use shoulders doing pressing movements)
2) legs with shoulders (shoulders at the end of leg day, i can hit them harder this way because they really havent been used)

exercises- arnold db press, upright row, barbell shoulder press, bent over rear delt raise, side lat raises, db raises, and SHRUGS

[mkettlewell15]

Right now I do shoulders with traps. I was just doing a Chest/Front delt/Side delt, and Back/rear delt/traps.

[Beefcake]

I do shoulders with traps+legs.

[glutestriation]

I do it as chrispgh. I hit them one day alone. I do something like this

Barbell front shoulder press 4 x 6-12
barbell back shoulder press 3 x 8 - 12
lateral dumbell raise or arnold press ( is up to you) 3 x 10 - 12
upright rows 3 x 12 - 15

that is basically my shoulder routine

[Mygeeto]

shoulders with calves here!

simly, one warm up set, then strait into 6+ sets of heavier ****.

[gym_addict]

Yeh i train mine with my traps.

Db press x 6
Machine press x 4
Laterals x 4
Anterior raises x 4
posterior raises x 4
EZ upright row x 4