[wrestlingstalion]

im trying to get some seperation and or detail to my shoulders. i dont know what to do though cause it isnt happening really.

i usually do this routine

dumbell or barbell press 4 sets of 6-8
lateral raise 4 sets of 8-10
upright row 3 sets of 8-10
bent over lateral raise 3 sets of 8-10

if anyone has any ideas that would be cool.

[cook82]

YOU SHOULD ASK HAMMER WHAT HE THINKS!

[lil_big_junior]

them exercises are pretty much what i do bro...raises are the main exercise for seperation...hit em hard on this exercise with 1 warm up set followed by 4-5 sets 6-8 reps then pyramid sets 2-12 on a lighter weight...

[blood2584]

jajaja hammer
that good remember you need change de routing

[lil_big_junior]

welcome to the dungeon blood2584

[cook82]

Originally Posted by blood2584

jajaja hammer
that good remember you need change de routing

jajaja you must be latin? I do business with a lot of people in peurto rico, and the dominion republic and when ever i talk to them on yahoo messenger instead of typin hahaha they type jajaja it took me like 4 months to realize what they were saying!! (j's sound like h's in spanish)

[compulut]

Are you doing front laterals as well? That should help accentuate the tie-in between the anterior and lateral heads.

On the side laterals, check your form. I see a lot of guys that go super heavy, with ****ty form. Make sure that the angle between your forearm & upper arm remains consistant throughout the movement. At the top, look at how you're holding the weight in the mirror. Think of pouring a teapot - your thumb side of your hands should be downward, and your pinky side of your hands should be upward.

You can try the movement now, with one arm, holding your opposite hand over the working shoulder. Perform the movement ending with your fist parrallel to the floor. At the top of the movement, pause, then notice the difference as you tilt the fist as stated above. With your feeling hand, you'll notice that the muscle tightens even more, right at the tie-in.

In practice, you'll do the twist with the movement, instead of only at the end. Same way you do dumbell curls, if you supinate.

[lil_big_junior]

good post as usual^^^

[3fifi3]

stretch after workout , and lose bf

[compulut]

Originally Posted by lil_big_junior

good post as usual^^^

Tanks!

[wrestlingstalion]

thanks alot especially lil_big and cumpulut. and i have a low bf% i run alot

[BBenthusiast]

love the tip about the teapot compulut, looking forward to my next shoulder workout to try it!