[Shadowfox]

how long it whould take me to get to 280-290 contest shape? 10 years?
i figure on 25-30 pounds of muscle a year maybe some juice i could do it within 10 years right?

[Mygeeto]

Originally Posted by Shadowfox

how long it whould take me to get to 280-290 contest shape? 10 years?
i figure on 25-30 pounds of muscle a year maybe some juice i could do it within 10 years right?

[Shadowfox]

Originally Posted by Mygeeto

smartass

[Freak]

Originally Posted by Shadowfox

how long it whould take me to get to 280-290 contest shape? 10 years?
i figure on 25-30 pounds of muscle a year maybe some juice i could do it within 10 years right?

No. The only time you gain 25-30lbs of muscle on steroids is when you did not reach your natural ability before taking them so you have a large jump. Look to gain 5lbs of solid muscle/yr even when on steroids. That is a solid gain. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Shadowfox]

Originally Posted by thefreak350

No. The only time you gain 25-30lbs of muscle on steroids is when you did not reach your natural ability before taking them so you have a large jump. Look to gain 5lbs of solid muscle/yr even when on steroids. That is a solid gain. Sorry to burst your bubble.

that does not make sense if that was true it whould take jay and ronnie like 30 years too get that big

[Dylan5000]

Yeah, and how many pros actually weight 280-290 contest shape?? Gunter and Ronnie are the only decent-looking ones I can think of, so unless you have another growth spurt that brings you up to 6'10", don't bank on it.

[Shadowfox]

Originally Posted by Dylan5000

Yeah, and how many pros actually weight 280-290 contest shape?? Gunter and Ronnie are the only decent-looking ones I can think of, so unless you have another growth spurt that brings you up to 6'10", don't bank on it.

what about ruhl and jay is only 275 its not impossible maybe it whould 15 years

[Freak]

I'm only telling you the truth Shadow. Watch Jay's first video and you can hear it straight from him. 5lbs of solid muscle is a good gain, that is all they expect per year.
Let's say you start at 200lbs and gain 25/yr for 10 years.. your going to be 450lbs of muscle.....

[Shadowfox]

i know but they have been training for a long time i could gain more than them!

[Thomas_Rivera]

Your gonna have to reach your absolute peak then start juicing

[Dylan5000]

Shadowfox, we're just giving you the most likely scenario based on the evidence. If you don't want to believe it then don't, but I think you're setting yourself up to be disappointed.

[Shadowfox]

10-15 years thats all i need!

[Dylan5000]

How many guys have trained for 10-15 years, eaten boat-loads of protein, and juiced themselves to the hilt, and yet still don't weigh 290 with 10 percent bodyfat?