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View Poll Results: Deadlift Vs. Squat - In terms of mass and strength : Is the deadlift ...
Greater than squat 5 35.71%
Equal to the squat 3 21.43%
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:11 AM   #1
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Is the deadlft a good replacement for back squats. If yes then is it greater, equal to or less than equal to squats.
Thank you for your suggestions.
 
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Old 12-24-2006, 12:01 PM   #2
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Is the deadlft a good replacement for back squats. If yes then is it greater, equal to or less than equal to squats.
Thank you for your suggestions.
squats are the King of weight lifting..dead lifts are the heir to the throne..I've heard every excuse in the world for not doing squats but,if you dont do squats you will never reach your true potential as a body builder...
 
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Old 12-24-2006, 12:02 PM   #3
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Deadlifts will never even compare to what squats will do for your entire lower body.
 
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:18 PM   #4
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Hard to say..considering i cant even squat and i dont deadlift i guess my opinion in the matter rly dont count. however on behalf of a friend, i'd say squats.
his legs remind me of Flex's...tho a natural flex, that is.
 
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:37 PM   #5
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Hard to say..considering i cant even squat and i dont deadlift i guess my opinion in the matter rly dont count. however on behalf of a friend, i'd say squats.
his legs remind me of Flex's...tho a natural flex, that is.
yo dude why dont u squat or dead lift? it's good for you..you can start light...try it I guarantee you'll love it...lol
 
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Old 12-25-2006, 12:30 AM   #6
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well i find it really frigen hard to squat comfortably coz of my long bone length, to the point where its just not gonna be helpful at all to me, so i just dont do them all together.
deadlifts because last time i did them i used chad form and injured my lower back pretty bad n have been scared to do deads again since lol.
and i dont/dident use that much weight on either when i do/did them
 
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Old 12-25-2006, 07:21 AM   #7
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well i find it really frigen hard to squat comfortably coz of my long bone length, to the point where its just not gonna be helpful at all to me, so i just dont do them all together.
deadlifts because last time i did them i used chad form and injured my lower back pretty bad n have been scared to do deads again since lol.
and i dont/dident use that much weight on either when i do/did them
long bone length? ...hmmm...if having a long bone prevents you from squatting..how about using the leg press machine?..leg extentions,leg curls.seated and standing calfs?..nobody wants to get injured,especially lower back so be careful..lol
 
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:36 AM   #8
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I posted that I believe the squat is superior to the deadlift. Here is why.

I perform both the full squat and sumo/conventional deadlifts and find the squat to be the most taxing, most intense and one you truly have to be focused for.

You take the bar off the rack, its on your shoulders for the entire set. You are bearing the weight from start to finish of an entire set. I begin to sweat before even doing my first rep. Then you go down and must come back up with all that weight! I feel there is a greater workload during not only the positive phase of the lift but also the negative. I also think that the squat has good rewards in upper body strength also. Usually I feel muscle soreness in much of my upper body afterwards, primarily the shoulders and back.

On the deadlift however, usually the protocol is to ground the weight between reps to keep form in check, where there is no weight bearing. The same which cannot be done with a squat. Also, on the negative phase, the bar may be virtually dropped or completely dropped - a good idea when handling substantial weight. So on a deadlift you must only come up.

To me nothing is as draining as a long set of heavy full squats. However the deadlift is not far behind by any means.

I would love to see some sort of scientific study between the two if somebody could submit something ? It would be great to see what science had to say on the matter.
 
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:54 AM   #9
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you are 100% correct...a full squat..cold metal on your bare skin with thighs parallel to the floor....at least 315 lbs..5 sets of 10..you do that or anywhere close to it and you are THE KING..best feeling in the world..dead lifts try doing them standing on a box so that you extend further on the negative ..5 sets of 10 with 225 lbs or more and you know you are an advanced bb...
 
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Old 12-25-2006, 10:22 PM   #10
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In my opinion, which are like butholes and everyone has one, squats are way better for your legs than deadlifts. When I do squats I get way more burn in my legs right then. Deadlifts are in my lower back the next day. So, I think that both are good, but squats are definetly better!
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:03 AM   #11
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In my opinion, which are like butholes and everyone has one, squats are way better for your legs than deadlifts. When I do squats I get way more burn in my legs right then. Deadlifts are in my lower back the next day. So, I think that both are good, but squats are definetly better!

Thank you for sharing that awful analogy.
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:50 AM   #12
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long bone length? ...hmmm...if having a long bone prevents you from squatting..how about using the leg press machine?..leg extentions,leg curls.seated and standing calfs?..nobody wants to get injured,especially lower back so be careful..lol
at 6ft 5inches tall my legs are definatly not gonna be short, so its gonna be harder for me to squat and deadlift..maybe harder to squat more than it is to dead because tall people tend to lean forwrds during the movement which puts omre stress on the lower back
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:01 AM   #13
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In my opinion, which are like butholes and everyone has one, squats are way better for your legs than deadlifts. When I do squats I get way more burn in my legs right then. Deadlifts are in my lower back the next day. So, I think that both are good, but squats are definetly better!
your opinion is based on having done both and evaluating the results...you are correct in your assessment..
 
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