[Jonathan180]

split training routines what muscle goes with what? cuz i heard back and bis isnt good because you draining bis with all back or is that what suppose to happen please help

[Progeny]

In my experience, I can;t train back with BIs because it does, in fact, drain them. But I have always gotten good results training chest with TRIs, so I sometimes train them together. My split looks like this:

1. Back
2. Chest, BIs, abs
3. Off
4. Legs
5. Shoulders, Triceps, abs
6. Off
7. Off

I get criticized all the time for this split, but it works great for me. My advice is that if you want to train BIs after you hit Back, try it out. I have friends that are able to do a push/pull/legs type of thing but I have never been able to. The cool thing about finding what works for you is the vanity of knowing that you created your own program. Use a basic split and find what exercisies, rep schemes, training days, etc. work for you.

[Jonathan180]

yeah i did the normal split it was fine for me but is it normal to get angry with back i feel lazy and i get aggravated at myself when doing back. anyone have this problem?

[DonPengu1n]

Personally I go,

Mon Legs
Tues Shoulders
Wed off/cardio
Thurs Back
Fri Chest
Sat Bi/Tri
Sun off/cardio

but im thinking bout addin bi's to thurs (back) and tris fri (chest)
this split has been good to be so far as i am careful and listen to my body..im 19, but ive been lifting since i was in 5th grade (had a trainer until this past year when i went to college) ive done different splits like a 3 day, 4 day ... a good for day split is

1 Chest shoulders Tri (heavy chest, med shoulders)
2 Legs back bi (heavy legs, med back)
3 Chest shoulders tri (med chest, heavy shoulders)
4 Legs back bi (med legs, heavy back)

i could give you details on what exercises i would do if you would like... it worked for me damn good...id go into it now but if ur jw then that post is good enough..if ur interested i could go on ... (as could anyone lol)

[Jonathan180]

CAN YOU GO IN TO DETAIL WITH YOUR WORKOUT.

[DonPengu1n]

Im kinda short on time, but just to get back to you i will do a brief run down of the main lifts, im assuming you know your body and know what lifts you prefer to do, this is just the skeleton outline and you need to fit in what you should do for alternates

4 day that was good(for me anyhow)

Monday
Chest shoulders Tri (heavy chest, med shoulders)
Core Lifts Heavy Bench, Med Behind Back Military Press
Your Alternates here

Tuesday
Legs back bi (heavy legs, med back)
Core Lifts Heavy Squat(or leg press), Med Deadlift
Your Alternates here

Thursday
Chest shoulders tri (med chest, heavy shoulders)
Core Lifts Med Bench(possibly close grip), Heavy Behind Back Military Press
Your Alternates here

Friday
Legs back bi (med legs, heavy back)
Core Lifts Med Squat(possibly front squat), Heavy Deadlift
Your Alternates here

For the "Your Alternates here" you will need to add in the odds and ends to get your body parts hit, I usually lift for feel (I have lifted enough to know my body and know when im over training and such)

But this should be good for you if your looking to get results, Also, it would definetly help to get some other people to check this out aswell (im thinking bout starting a new thread when i get some time to see what people think)

Once again, this worked for me, while i know everyone is different so just somthing to think about when your plan out your workout

[Dylan5000]

Originally Posted by Jonathan180

yeah i did the normal split it was fine for me but is it normal to get angry with back i feel lazy and i get aggravated at myself when doing back. anyone have this problem?

Because it's hard?

Get into the right mindset, focus all your emotions on your goal - which is, I assume, to get bigger and stronger. Bring yourself into that zone where difficulty is accepted as par for the course. The mental aspect is, I believe, what separates the champs from the chumps.

Of course, you may be frustrated because the back is hard to isolate, in a sense; I mean, I'm sure we were all pretty confused the first time someone told us to "lift with your lats, not your arms"! If this is the case, just keep training with good form and eventually the mind-muscle connection will establish itself.