[Mygeeto]

the more intense a workout is, the longer one should remain idol to recover from a workout right? so that should mean less time under the iron right?

and vice verca (less intense, less time required for recovery and therefore more time could or should spent under the iron per week)

discuss.

[G O R T]

You forgot to define "intensity".

Relative weight used?
Total weight lifted?
Total weight lifted vs time?

In general, you never want to lower intensity. You either want to change the type, or split up the total volume.

[tim290280]

the more intense a workout is

The more work per unit of time.

the longer one should remain idol to recover from a workout right?

Why? Unless you have trained above your recovery threshold, by either having a low workload capacity or training beyond failure, recovery time should be the same. This is assuming you ease into more intense workouts.

so that should mean less time under the iron right?

Not necessarily.

and vice verca

vice versa

Looks like you just read Arthur Jones or Mike Mentzer. Don't take their theories as gospel, as their practices are not optimal for strength or hypertrophy. Don't mistake this for saying they don't work, because they do, just not the best methods available.

[mvsf1]

BB is not an exact science, I'm with tim...

[jornT]

Originally Posted by mvsf1

BB is not an exact science, I'm with tim...

It's pretty damn close.

I'm with Tim also though

[Rocky]

I have to admit that I've always been of the intensity side of things due to personal preference, not that I think it is better as frequency appears to be a key consideration for optimum results in shortest space of time.

[Diesel]

The only part of BB'ing that is a science is the diet part. People get way too into the training though...they just make it all confuzzling.

EDIT: I suppose AAS could be a science also, if you go that route.

[jornT]

Originally Posted by Diesel

The only part of BB'ing that is a science is the diet part.

As a nutriotion student I can say, it's quite the opposite.

Eat enough random food with enough protein and total calories an you grow.

Ofcourse you can say if you eat enough, just hit the weight and you build mass, but there are very bigg diffrences between programma's and at the end of the day it doesn't matter all that much what you eat aslong as it's the right amount.

[Diesel]

I suppose that's true. But, I was thinking more about the dieting down, carb depleating and carb loading...

[jornT]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I suppose that's true. But, I was thinking more about the dieting down, carb depleating and carb loading...

Good point, I didn't really think of that.

But trust me, weight training is very very complex.

[tim290280]

But trust me, weight training is very very complex.

Not only complex due to the macros but the micros. You can think you have everything right but still not be due to bad motor pathways, poor recruitment patterns, minor imbalances. If someone has a shoulder impingement you can't just say do scapular contractions, as most will use their traps and posterior delts to do the move.

Nutrition is the same. As far as I'm concerned nutrition experts don't exist. Anyone who claims to be shouldn't be listened to.

But the big basics is still simple, and why people say "its not rocket science".

[Mygeeto]

Originally Posted by Rocky

I have to admit that I've always been of the intensity side of things due to personal preference, not that I think it is better as frequency appears to be a key consideration for optimum results in shortest space of time.

im with rocky

[Mygeeto]

ok..so say i was training chest. 3 exersizes, 3 sets each.
pec deck(15reps each set), dumbell presses(8reps each set) and dumbell flyes(14 reps per set).
imagine it was with a wieght that required you to exert yourself greatly, yet still enabled you to have excellent form.
the day after soreness can be felt nearly 3 days after that chest blast, so it was obviously very intense...
is it safe to train another completly different body part(s) such as hamstrings and quads? keeping in mind the "day after soreness" can still easily be felt for 3 days after the chest day.
and knowing that whatever part you hit this next session, you are gonna go at it with same input as you did last time with the chest