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Old 06-26-2006, 01:30 AM   #1
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ive been training 3days split for a while now(chest/tri,back/bi and legs/shoulder), and im gonna change my program this week..was thinking about the 5x5 if anyone has ever heard of that...
or maybe some of you have a better solution?

My goal is to gain volum/mass....
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:10 AM   #2
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please explain what split is?
 
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:32 AM   #3
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<--training section is a few chapters below
 
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:16 PM   #4
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From my knowledge, the 5x5 is good for gaining mass, I think you strength skyrockets as well. I've tried it for a month and saw amazing results.

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This type of training was popularized by Bill Starr in his book "Strongest Shall Survive." The book is out of print now, but you can find it if you look around on the web.
My first strength training routine used the 5x5 system. It works well for beginner and intermediate lifters. Advanced lifters will require more variety, will want to lift heavier weights, and will want to use cycling in their training. Thus, advanced lifters should look at my non-linear periodization routine.

The idea behind this routine is to perform 5x5 (5 sets of 5 reps) on the primary lifts (squats, deadlifts, bench, power cleans, etc). This does not include warm up sets, just working sets. Thus, there are many ways of accomplishing the 5 sets of 5. For example, consider the following sets for squat.
135xWarmup
205x5
255x5
295x5 (first working set, say around 70% of one-rep max)
315x5
335x5/2 (2sets of 5 reps at top working weight)
315x5 (one back-off set)
One can perform more or less sets at the top weight, but the scheme I've outlined is generally a good one.

The routine calls for cycling each week such that you have a light, medium and heavy workout every week. In addition you will see that I have a squatting, pushing and pulling exercise on each day, plus ab work.

Mon (heavy): squat 5x5, deadlift 5x5, bench press 5x5, abs
Wed (light): squat 5x5 (top set should be 80% of Mon weight), pull-ups or pull-downs 5x5, military presses 5x5, abs
Fri (medium): squat 5x5 (top set should be 90% of Mon weight), rowing movement 5x5, incline press 5x5, abs

The routine is simple, and has a substantial amount of volume, which can be great for working on technique.

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Old 06-29-2006, 07:46 PM   #5
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Some good information about 5x5:
http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...nts_thread.htm
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:38 AM   #6
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See the sticky "split training all wrong"

5x5 is a good program if you ask me. Have you considered HST?
If not check this site out: http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
 
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:00 AM   #7
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See the sticky "split training all wrong"

5x5 is a good program if you ask me. Have you considered HST?
If not check this site out: http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
Any program is better then the one you're using currently
 
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:27 AM   #8
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Old 07-03-2006, 07:24 AM   #9
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i put up a 5x5 program, splitting my body upper/lower part...
but on my legs i use higher reps...And i train my shoulders when i have the strength..

Day1 Chest & Back + Biceps

Day2 Legs

Day3 Chest & Back + Triceps
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:37 AM   #10
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i put up a 5x5 program, splitting my body upper/lower part...
but on my legs i use higher reps...And i train my shoulders when i have the strength..

Day1 Chest & Back + Biceps

Day2 Legs

Day3 Chest & Back + Triceps
And how is this 5x5?
 
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