[therealgame]

is jay and ronnie taking something that allows them to do 60mins cardo or more and not lose muscle??

[Johnny Bravo]

Originally Posted by therealgame

is jay and ronnie taking something that allows them to do 60mins cardo or more and not lose muscle??

Actually I do think they loose some musclesize, but not a whole lot because of the AAS.

I think it would be possible even for a clean person to do 60 minutes of cardio and not loose any muscle just as long as the calorie intake is high enough.

[big D]

genetics and drugs

[therealgame]

i going to try stacker and see if that'll do something..........

[Six]

when I start cutting I'll use

amino's, stackers and HMB

[AnimalGen]

genetics and drugs

[Ironslave]

Really guys, you should pay very little attention to what pro bodybuilders do. going past 60 minutes of cardio when cutting is a bit excessive, there really isnt much need to go that long, your cortisol levels will elevate which will catabolize muscle, 30-45 minutes is enough.

Six, HMB is a great supplement. I also reccomend extra BCAA's and glutamine when cutting for preserving muscle. If you feel the need to include a fat burner, take a 200mg caffeine pill 30 mins before or drink some green tea, dont bother with stackers.

[GoingBiG]

Really guys, you should pay very little attention to what pro bodybuilders do. going past 60 minutes of cardio when cutting is a bit excessive, there really isnt much need to go that long, your cortisol levels will elevate which will catabolize muscle, 30-45 minutes is enough.

I guess the it has something to with intensity to?

[Ironslave]

Originally Posted by GoingBiG

I guess the it has something to with intensity to?

Definately, you could get maybe away with it under low intensity, definately not higher intensity though. But its a little risky to go that long if you wish to preserve muscle. I like 30 mins at the start of a cut, and increase it to 45 in the later stages.

[post]

get vaspro and take the caffine with it for your fat burner.

[therealgame]

what will hmb do for me...is'nt that a eas product??

so if i take stacker and hmb and watch those carbs and do 45 to 60mins of crosstraining...will i shed off this thin layer of fat reveiling to the ladies my six pack abs even if women seem to go for the chest first..

[Ironslave]

HMB is a Kreb's cycle precursor as leucine is converted into HMB. Check this out.

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/8/1937

[Ironslave]

Also, i just said not to bother with stacker. Spot reduction is impossible, i dont know where the fat will come off you and so i cant say whether the ladies will go for your abs or chest. Its much more complicated than just cardio, HMB and reducing carbs.

[Six]

yeah I take BCAA's and glutamine right now and didn't mention it
cause I counted it as amino's

but why no stackers???? tought that tose where some good fat burners
+ you get a great energy boost