Chest size & Strength

xtweak05 · 04-21-2006, 01:18 PM

for you guys that read my logs you know my chest numbers are descent for my weight. Flat Db Press the 85x6 and best I've done on incline are 75x5 or 6. Anyway, my chest is still so small, not even 40 inches around. Definetely my most stubborn bodypart, and being a true ectomorph at heart isnt helping matters much.

Question is my chest is so small, how am I putting up that weight and does this mean my entire life I could eventually be a guy benching 400lb but have a 45" chest? I dont even know how I put the 85s up, I hate my chest. I wish it would instantly grow at least 5-6 inches, grrrr.

hugegunns · 04-21-2006, 01:29 PM

Sounds like it could be your form, if you can press allot and your chest is still lagging, your shoulders and Tri-ceps are doing all the work! Try and keep your elbows out and contract with the chest to move the weight, go lighter with the weight, and try to feel the movements in your chest, I know that Jorn will dissagree, but try a DB fly movement and don't bring the DB up all the way, only about 3/4ths. The key with this is to keep the chest under tension the entire time.

Why is your logs in kilos not pounds? Your location says you are from the USA!

xtweak05 · 04-21-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hugegunns

Sounds like it could be your form, if you can press allot and your chest is still lagging, your shoulders and Tri-ceps are doing all the work! Try and keep your elbows out and contract with the chest to move the weight, go lighter with the weight, and try to feel the movements in your chest, I know that Jorn will dissagree, but try a DB fly movement and don't bring the DB up all the way, only about 3/4ths. The key with this is to keep the chest under tension the entire time.

Why is your logs in kilos not pounds? Your location says you are from the USA!

My form is perfect: I do focus on my chest, I think directly about it and focus and only work the chest and only feel it in the chest. All about mind muscle connection baby. About the flies thats exactly how I've always done them, keep the muscle working and not giving it a rest by coming all the way together.

my logs are in pounds too, what are you talking about?

xtweak05 · 04-21-2006, 01:36 PM

I didnt say my chest wasnt responding, it responds just slowly, I was just curious as to how I'm capable of pressing so much when its not exactly the most developed muscle I have at all.

TrueOutlaw · 04-21-2006, 01:58 PM

unfourtantley muscle development is mostly genetic ur genetics may not allow u to develop a full thick chest. i know guys that bench 450+ that have little or no chest to speak of but have massive triceps

xtweak05 · 04-21-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueOutlaw

unfourtantley muscle development is mostly genetic ur genetics may not allow u to develop a full thick chest. i know guys that bench 450+ that have little or no chest to speak of but have massive triceps

ectomorphs suck dammit...one day I will have a nice chest, guaranteed it will probably ALWAYS be my weak part, but one day...muahaha, it might take 10 years but one day, one day!

jornT · 04-21-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xtweak05

ectomorphs suck dammit...one day I will have a nice chest, guaranteed it will probably ALWAYS be my weak part, but one day...muahaha, it might take 10 years but one day, one day!

Ectomorphs don't suck. I saw you before picture, I was liek that once too. Ectomorphs just have to eat more. I plateaud for very long trying to eat to clean, now I just anything I can get my hands on and grow! So the scale is moving once again, and I still see my abs

Just eat ALOT, first priority is to get calorie excess, once you got that, you can care about what you actually eat.

jornT · 04-21-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hugegunns

Jorn will dissagree, but try a DB fly movement and don't bring the DB up all the way, only about 3/4ths.

Diesel · 04-21-2006, 03:58 PM

stick to strickly pressing movements. there are a lot of factors that come to mind by your post. first, it could be diet. Not so much as far as eating clean but maybe not enough. But, if your do eat enough then we can scratch that one out. Secondly, you might not be doing enough and maybe too much for your chest. A lot of that depends on genetics and how your entire routine is set up (sorry, i havent been in the log section for quite some time). If you constantly stay in the 5-8 rep range try to perfrom periodization. Once im back full force I'm gona do periodization like this

3 weeks of 15-20 reps
2 transition weeks - week 1 is 12 reps and then week 2 is 10 reps.
2 weeks of 8
2 weeks of 6

the reason I posted this up is b/c its important to lift heavy but remember that lifting heavy is very hard on your joints. Thats why there is 3 weeks of real high reps since high reps have been shown to rebuild joints. also, sometimes for certain people their chest may not grow when doing lower reps. My buddy did lower reps for a few of weeks for chest and he lost a little bit of mass. He needs to stick in the 8-12 range to really put mass on. after reading this you can probably kind of figure out on your own whats up if you don't already know. One other thing you could try to do is train chest twice per week. Once again, I haven't been to the log section lately so if you have tried most of this then sorry for the worthless post

xtweak05 · 04-21-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jornT

Ectomorphs don't suck. I saw you before picture, I was liek that once too. Ectomorphs just have to eat more. I plateaud for very long trying to eat to clean, now I just anything I can get my hands on and grow! So the scale is moving once again, and I still see my abs

Just eat ALOT, first priority is to get calorie excess, once you got that, you can care about what you actually eat.

yea I've been slowly eating more and more each week so put on lean mass for right now.
Before I was lacking in the fruits department so I've been eating apples and bananas a lot even some oatmeal for my complex carbs to help with the lean mass.

Slow but surely. I bulk in August though so then starting then I should put on some good mass, I want to gain enough so I lose sight of my abs completely, my plan is to get up to around 225-230 with my bodyfat staying 15-18% max.

Rocky · 04-21-2006, 05:40 PM

Diesel has some good ideas. You say you can lift big weight (and I've seen the log! :) ) but if that is all you are doing,simply adjusting your rep range and hitting the muscle differently may be all you need. As has been said, you may just be destined to make slow progress, but slow is better than none, even if it is utterly frustrating. I I can empathise with that as I have a similar problem.

xtweak05 · 04-21-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky

Diesel has some good ideas. You say you can lift big weight (and I've seen the log! :) ) but if that is all you are doing,simply adjusting your rep range and hitting the muscle differently may be all you need. As has been said, you may just be destined to make slow progress, but slow is better than none, even if it is utterly frustrating. I I can empathise with that as I have a similar problem.

I dont think I said big, I'm not that confident in the weights I throw up lol. Descent weight, descent. When I'm still in the 170s and throwin up over 100lb Dbs on Presses than that will be big weight, until then

tim290280 · 04-21-2006, 10:01 PM

Hmmm. Diesel's advice is good, but you can also get off the traditional split routine.

You are going with the chest twice a week thing, why not go upper/lower body 2x a week. This way you provide an even split for the push/pull and still hit chest maximally. Also you are doing alot of arms work, predominately tris. This is going to impact on your chest training.

Another thing, try to BB press by squeezing the bar together. Back the weight off a bit and really try to push it together (this will fire the chest more).