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Old 03-29-2006, 09:02 AM   #1
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Whats the difference between flat, incline and decline, like in terms of what part of the chest they hit. Since there are only 2 heads i figured u couldnt really specify where.

Also why say if u can bench 80kg on flat can u only bench 70 on incline
 
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:37 AM   #2
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It isn't so much that you can work specific portions of the chest rather that they are slightly favoured with certain angles. The common assumption is this:

Incline: More upper chest
Flat: overall chest
Decline: more lower chest

Flyes: more outer chest
Pec deck /cable crossovers: more inner chest

The reason incline tends to be harder is because flat utilizes more of the pec area whereas incline is more the upper section and some front delt which is a smaller muscle.

Hope that helped clear it up.
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:37 PM   #3
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incline is also a greater range of motion. Next time you're warming up on decline, notice how even touching your chest, the elbows only bend 90 degrees.
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:39 PM   #4
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great post Rock .. enough said IMO
 
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:29 PM   #5
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Quote:
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Flyes: more outer chest
Pec deck /cable crossovers: more inner chest


Serieusly, un-mod this guy.
 
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Old 03-29-2006, 04:55 PM   #6
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thanx thats all i wanted
 
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:41 PM   #7
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yeah rocky somed that up good nice post
 
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:26 PM   #8
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Rocky hit it, but im kinda weird in this aspect.

My incline is 245, my bench is 275 and my decline is really really close to my bench if not higher (didnt max on decline but my reps are higher than my bench)
 
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:29 PM   #9
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That's about right lineman. Incline is usually less than flat and decline more than flat.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:09 AM   #10
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It isn't so much that you can work specific portions of the chest rather that they are slightly favoured with certain angles. The common assumption is this:

Incline: More upper chest
Flat: overall chest
Decline: more lower chest

Flyes: more outer chest
Pec deck /cable crossovers: more inner chest

The reason incline tends to be harder is because flat utilizes more of the pec area whereas incline is more the upper section and some front delt which is a smaller muscle.

Hope that helped clear it up.
Yeah and the diffrent benching grips
Wide (More outer pecs)
Narrow (Triceps + inner chest)
Reverse grip more triceps and inner chest
 
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Old 07-29-2006, 07:35 AM   #11
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You guys crack me up - I hate to say it but I'm with Jorn on his line of thought...
 
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Old 07-29-2006, 07:48 AM   #12
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How about adding to the knowledge then.
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Heres my tips on it, Im weighing in at 280lbs right now and im also 16, so i guess i know how to gain weight, but my genetics suck also but anyways:
1. eat icecream or snack foods before going to sleep.
2. dont workout for a few days and just pig as much as possible.
3. take some creatine, i gained over 40lbs from creatine *dam it

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Old 07-29-2006, 07:00 PM   #13
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Incline is the way to go!
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:21 PM   #14
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Overall chest mass (and most often times the desired "cleavage" effect) is simply attained by pure mass in the sternal head of the pectoralis major. The sternal head is by far the largest part of the chest muscles (1 of 3 and about 80% of the total) and size is best acquired through maximum muscle fiber stimulation. Flat bench presses (dumbells being superior to barbells) stimulate more muscle fiber than incline bench presses or dumbell flyes (cables and machines being better here). As far as form, the shoulder blades should be pulled together and the bodies natural range of motion should be followed. In addition, the upper arm does not need to go much further below the parallel plane before anterior delts take over so the ROM (for chest only) is not nearly as large as most people insist upon.

As for Incline vs. Flat: The clavicular head is most often times thought to be stimulated the most during an incline bench press. However, most physiologist will tell you that the clavicular head gets the most stimulation from pullups, flyes and lateral/front raises. Anterior delts tend to take the brunt of most incline bench presses and actually have a tendency to put the shoulder joint at a less than ideal angle for safeties sake. However, follow proper form, keep a spotter on hands at all times and don't allow your shoulders to move at all and you can still activate a large portion of the clavicular head - you just won't get a massive chest from it.

Inner pec vs. outer pec stimulation: On