[aild54]

Well, this is my first log. It's going to feel weird to type all of this out for others to read, but oh well. My name is Chris. I'm currently 6' tall, 138 lbs., and maybe 8%-9% bodyfat. When I started, I was 117 lbs, at about 15% bodyfat. That was a little over a year ago. I was recently pretty overtrained. I just got back from a week off at the beach 2 days ago. It's time to get a new split, new diet, and new mentality. I'll be starting my new split on Tuesday. It's going to look like this.

Monday- Off
Tuesday- Upper body
Wednesday- Lower body
Thursday- Off
Friday- Pull
Saturday- Push
Sunday- Lower

It's going to be tough to eat a lot due to school, and my hatred for food, but here's what I'm going to make my diet look like...

Meal 1- 6 egg whites, 1/2 cup of oats, and an apple. With fish oil
Meal 2- 4 oz. chicken breast, 3/4 cup of brown rice, broccoli, and peppers
Meal 3- 4 oz. steak, 1 cup of oats, 1 banana
Train
Meal 4- 6 scoops of Gatorade powder, 2 scoops of whey, multivitamin, BCAAs.
Meal 5- 6 egg whites with peppers, egg plant, and onions, a medium sized sweet potato, and 1/2 a cup of oats.
Meal 6- 4 oz. ground beef on 2 slices of whole grain bread, with a cup of skim milk.

Let me know if you guys have anything to add.
I was also curious what all of you think of doing CKD to bulk. I'm really interested in it for a lot of reasons. I love steak, eggs, bacon, etc. I rarely have energy and I've heard ketogenic diets make people feel more energetic after the first few transition days. I have a ridiculous appetite. I always have the feeling of hunger, even when I'm full. The problem is that I really don't like to eat. CKD would be perfect because fat is more calorie dense, so it would solve the hunger issue, while allowing me to eat less.

Sorry for the book. I'll keep posting my diet daily, and my workouts whenever I start up again.

[n88tr]

I don't understand how you said you were at a higher BF% back sometime ago when you weighed less then you do now...

Anyways I would like to see you specify what kinds of workouts you have been doing recently and also clarify what exercises you do for the Upper, Lower and those Push/Pull days.

The Dungeon is here for you!

And lol that's not a book, you should see some of my posts, I've gotten rep for making the biggest Dungeon post, lol.

[aild54]

I was EXTREMELY skinny. Like, it looked unhealthy. I think I was in inch shorter, too.
I haven't worked out since the 14th, because I was overtrained.

Tuesday- Upper
BB rows- 5x5
Flat BB bench- 5x5
Weighted chins- 5x5
Push press- 5x5

Wednesday- Lower
Squat- 5x5
Deadlift-5x5
Power clean- 5x5
Calf raises- 5x5

Thursday- off

Friday- Pull
Pulldowns- 5x10-12
Rows with a DD handle- 5x10-12
Reverse grip pulldowns- 4x10-12
DB rows- 4x10-12
DB shrugs- 4x10-12
BB curls- 2x10-12

Saturday- Push
Incline DB bench- 4x10-12
Arnold press- 4x10-12
Decline flyes- 3x10-12
Lateral raises- 3x10-12
Dips- 4x10-12

Sunday- Lower
Front squats- 6x10-12
Glute-ham raises- I can do like 3, so I add in negatives. 4 sets.
SLDL- 4x10-12
Lunges- 4x10-12
Calves

And thanks for stopping by, n88tr.

[aild54]

I leave for school in 10 minutes, but because I'm a Dungeon addict, I had to get on. Haha, so far today I had...
1 large banana
2 cups of Cheerios with a tiny bit of milk
4 oz. of ground beef.

Normally I wouldn't have beef, but I missed a meal yesterday, so I thought I would even it out.

[Kaboom]

Hate the workout but thats just me im not a big fan of the upper lower days.
Anyways.How many grams of protein/carbs/fats are you getting everyday with your diet.

[Cork]

Overtraining? No wonder. If you are a novice lifter, I would drop all those sets to no more than 3 (even maybe the 5x5s too). That just seems like way too many sets.

Also I just checked out your pics in your profile. You have 3-4% bodyfat. You are absolutely shredded. Get to eating man!! If you are that skinny you obviously have a space shuttle for metabolism. You should be eating everything in sight.

[aild54]

Originally Posted by Kaboom

Hate the workout but thats just me im not a big fan of the upper lower days.
Anyways.How many grams of protein/carbs/fats are you getting everyday with your diet.

Do you think I should switch to something that's more like a split?

150g protein, today it'll be around 350g carbs, and 50g fat.

[aild54]

Originally Posted by Cork

Overtraining? No wonder. If you are a novice lifter, I would drop all those sets to no more than 3 (even maybe the 5x5s too). That just seems like way too many sets.

Also I just checked out your pics in your profile. You have 3-4% bodyfat. You are absolutely shredded. Get to eating man!! If you are that skinny you obviously have a space shuttle for metabolism. You should be eating everything in sight.

Really? I think I was just overtraining because I was only getting one day of absolute rest every week. The other days were lifting and HIIT. I was working everything twice a week. Back got 24 sets a week, legs got like 34, chest got 12, and shoulders got 12. I barely worked arms. But I'll take your advice.

Wow, I didn't think my bodyfat was THAT low. I wasn't trying to get it that low, either. I think I was at like 250g carbs, 200 grams of protein, and 40g fat. I know that's not a lot, but it seemed to be at the time.

To be totally honest, I look at people, especially my parents, and I see guts, cellulite, rolls, etc. It just disgusts me. That's why I keep my bodyfat so low. I have a never ending appetite, I just hate eating.

[aild54]

So, today was my first day back at it and I think the first time I've ever worked my entire upper body. I kept my form perfect on everything, just to keep that as a habit. I did 4 sets instead of five, to meet Cork half-way. I could've gone a little heavier on everything, but my form would have suffered a little. So here's how today's workout went...

Walked on the treadmill for 5 minutes.
BB rows- 45x12x2 65x5 (warm-up sets) 85x5 95x5 105x5 110x5
Flat bench- 45x10 75x10 (warm-up sets) 95x5 110x5 120x5 125x5
Pull-ups- BWx5 15x5 15x5 10x5 (kept really good form for all of these)
Push press- 65x5 75x5 85x5
Rotator cuff exercises.

I'll post up my diet a little later.

[n88tr]

Originally Posted by aild54

Walked on the treadmill for 5 minutes.
BB rows- 45x12x2 65x5 (warm-up sets) 85x5 95x5 105x5 110x5
Flat bench- 45x10 75x10 (warm-up sets) 95x5 110x5 120x5 125x5
Pull-ups- BWx5 15x5 15x5 10x5 (kept really good form for all of these)
Push press- 65x5 75x5 85x5
Rotator cuff exercises.

What you just did there combines many upper body exercises like Chest, Back and Shoulders into one workout session.

Personally I would scratch our Upper and Lower days. And then concentrate on a split like

Mon Upper Chest + Glutes

Tues Back + Biceps

Wed Middle Chest + Triceps

Thur Hamstrings + Calves + Shoulders

Fri Lower Chest + Abs

Sat Rest + Cardio

Sun Rest

Or something like that.

It's easy to get burned out in just one time in the gym if you're planning on hitting upper. Unless you have super energy and great bulk diet, hitting all of upper body or all of lower body in one gym session, let alone overtraining in time allotment like 3 hours in gym to do all of upper is something to avoid. In order to hit a body part hard to stimulate growth I do not think in my opinion you can do this with one or two sets and be done with it. Think about it, you're putting 100% effort into say the PushPress and then 100% into the Flat bench, after a while it won't be 100% of your capabilities later in the workout because you will be tired out. You are cheating yourself out of gains. No rush to put on muscle, rushing will only slow you down in progress. Diet down solid, then the gym, then supps. All in good time; BBing is a marathon not a sprint.

That's my advice.

[rmike]

Good advice n88tr. Thats a good routine

[aild54]

Originally Posted by n88tr

What you just did there combines many upper body exercises like Chest, Back and Shoulders into one workout session.

Personally I would scratch our Upper and Lower days. And then concentrate on a split like

Mon Upper Chest + Glutes

Tues Back + Biceps

Wed Middle Chest + Triceps

Thur Hamstrings + Calves + Shoulders

Fri Lower Chest + Abs

Sat Rest + Cardio

Sun Rest

Or something like that.

It's easy to get burned out in just one time in the gym if you're planning on hitting upper. Unless you have super energy and great bulk diet, hitting all of upper body or all of lower body in one gym session, let alone overtraining in time allotment like 3 hours in gym to do all of upper is something to avoid. In order to hit a body part hard to stimulate growth I do not think in my opinion you can do this with one or two sets and be done with it. Think about it, you're putting 100% effort into say the PushPress and then 100% into the Flat bench, after a while it won't be 100% of your capabilities later in the workout because you will be tired out. You are cheating yourself out of gains. No rush to put on muscle, rushing will only slow you down in progress. Diet down solid, then the gym, then supps. All in good time; BBing is a marathon not a sprint.

That's my advice.

But, with that split, that means you're working chest one day, shoulders the day after, then chest again. I just feel like that would annihilate my shoulders, and not in the good way. Also, wouldn't the hormone released whenever you do your entire upper body and then the next day lower body be much greater than what it would be if you hit less of your body? Sorry if I worded that weird.

[aild54]

Anddd, on top of breakfast, I had...
3/4 cup brown rice with 4 oz. chicken breast.
1 cup of oats (measured dry), with a banana and 5 oz. beef.
75g dextrose and 1 scoop of whey
6 egg whites, 1 sweet potato, and half a cup of oats
4 oz. ground beef on 2 slices of whole grain bread and 1 spoonful of natural peanut butter

[n88tr]

Originally Posted by aild54

But, with that split, that means you're working chest one day, shoulders the day after, then chest again. I just feel like that would annihilate my shoulders, and not in the good way. Also, wouldn't the hormone released whenever you do your entire upper body and then the next day lower body be much greater than what it would be if you hit less of your body? Sorry if I worded that weird.

Yes, but a different part of the Chest. I've done this in the past and I got good results from it, provided diet is good and rest plenty. And like I said before, that was just an example split. Don't like it.... TOO BAD. lol I mean change it, you can do whatever you want I was just trying to help you. I don't see how your shoulders would be sore after you hit chest. Maybe you need to work on your form... I might agree if you had hit upper chest the day before but that's not what my example split has you doing. Middle chest should not agitate your shoulders. Dunno about the hormone release for lower vs upper days. I know there is more hormone release on heavy intense leg days but that's as much as I know. I wouldn't worry about the hormone release thing, just work hard, work smart and eat and rest.

[aild54]

Originally Posted by n88tr

Yes, but a different part of the Chest. I've done this in the past and I got good results from it, provided diet is good and rest plenty. And like I said before, that was just an example split. Don't like it.... TOO BAD. lol I mean change it, you can do whatever you want I was just trying to help you. I don't see how your shoulders would be sore after you hit chest. Maybe you need to work on your form... I might agree if you had hit upper chest the day before but that's not what my example split has you doing. Middle chest should not agitate your shoulders. Dunno about the hormone release for lower vs upper days. I know there is more hormone release on heavy intense leg days but that's as much as I know. I wouldn't worry about the hormone release thing, just work hard, work smart and eat and rest.

Nah, I get what you mean. And thanks for trying to help, that's really nice of you. But, like everyone else, I just want to find the most efficient way of gaining mass without overtraining.
I might just drop the flyes, lateral raises, some of the volume for back, and clean and jerks, just to make it so there's less volume, but I'm still hitting everything twice a week.

[Priest315]

Originally Posted by aild54

150g protein, today it'll be around 350g carbs, and 50g fat.

I dont mean to sound harsh but that food list is for a girl. You could get more protein out of one of my turds. It sounds like youve done good so far but to get any further, your going to have to start eating. I would be losing weight eating off that menu everyday. i posted this for somebody the other day but ill just copy it here for you. Take notice to the gatorade mid workout.

0530 Breakfast#1

protein shake whey isolate
2 slices whitebread and jelly sandwhich (2tbsp jelly)
3 whole eggs and 3 egg whites
large banana
totals (820cal, 20g fat, 80g carbs, 80g prot.)

0730 Breakfast #2

2 slices whole wheat bread 1tbsp jelly and 1tbsp peanut butter
2 cups oatmeal (dry measured) (**** its a **** load of oatmeal!!!)
totals(810cal, 21g fat, 140 carbs, 32g prot.)

0930 Snack
8oz turkey on 2 slices of wheat bread (this is a big ****er too)
sometimes i add mustard
totals (300cal, 2g fat, 28g carbs, 40g protein)

1130 Lunch
16-20 oz chicken breast
2 cups mixed greens
2 tbsp dressing (went with a light dressing i got tired of the olive oil and vinegar)
totals (607cal, 11g of fat, 4 carbs, 116g prot.)

preworkout around 100pm
protein shake
apple
totals( 285cal, 1g fat, 19 carb 50g prot.)

during workout i drink a gatorade for sugar for insulin spike

post w/o around 330 or 4
protein shake
tbsp honey 1 slice white bread
totals (275cal, 1g fat, 32g carb, 54g prot.)
creatine

pre dinner ( this is if i can slam it down )
large can of tuna w/2tbsp miracle whip
totals (320cal, 6g fat, 2g carbs, 55g prot.)

dinner around 530 not later than 700
12 oz (or more) of lean meat
1 lrg sweet potato
1 cup brocolli
2 cups salad w/dressing
totals (630cal, 5g fat, 0g carb, 75g prot.)

prebed snack
cup oatmeal
cup cottage chse nofat
1oz walnuts
totals (625cal, 24g fat about 20g from walnuts, 66 carbs oatmeal, 40g prot)

overall totals ~4775 cals w/tuna 4450w/o
90g fat
400g carbs
450-500g protein

[Priest315]

Originally Posted by aild54

Nah, I get what you mean. And thanks for trying to help, that's really nice of you. But, like everyone else, I just want to find the most efficient way of gaining mass without overtraining.
I might just drop the flyes, lateral raises, some of the volume for back, and clean and jerks, just to make it so there's less volume, but I'm still hitting everything twice a week.

There is no way in hell I could workout my chest twice a week. Your not overtraining, your undertraining. If you were pushing yourself to the limit during each workout you wouldnt even think of doing it twice a week. Shake some hands in the gym to find a good spotter and use him. My sets arent finished until my buddy has to crouch over me and do an upright row to get my last rep up. I dont think I could barely bench the bar 5 days after that.

[aild54]

Thanks for the advice, Priest.
What's funny is that I was talking to a kid at school today, and he's into powerlifting. He basically said I need to start eating, despite my hatred for it. You also have to remember that I only weigh 138 lbs. So, 450g of protein would be totally unnecessary for me. But I get what you're saying.
I ate the same as yesterday, except I added another 50g carbs, had 4 glasses of milk, and 2 spoonfuls of peanut butter 5 minutes ago. Oh, and I'm eating an apple. So another 75g carbs. I already drink Gatorade powder during my workouts. It's 25g carbs, and I have another 50g post workout. So I just say 75 total.
As for the training past failure, I've been lead to believe differently. Volume will do a lot more than training until failure. Not only that, but training EVERY muscle THAT intensely would just be ridiculous. If that works for you, that's great, keep it up. But it's not for me.

Today's workout was rushed because my band mates were on my ass. This Friday will be my last time playing drums in a band. I haven't done deads in months, so I kept it light to get my form back. But, here's how the workout went...
5 minute warm up on the treadmill
Dynamic stretches
Squats- 45x10 65x15 95x5 (warm ups) 125x5 145x5 165x5 180x5
Deads- 135x5 145x5 155x5
BB calf raises- 155x5 165x5 175x5

I actually bought a can of oxygen from Spencers the other day. I tried using it during my workout today. I'm not sure if it really did much, but it made me wonder... if we only breathed oxygen, would we recover faster?

[Priest315]

Originally Posted by aild54

Thanks for the advice, Priest.
What's funny is that I was talking to a kid at school today, and he's into powerlifting. He basically said I need to start eating, despite my hatred for it. You also have to remember that I only weigh 138 lbs. So, 450g of protein would be totally unnecessary for me. But I get what you're saying.
I ate the same as yesterday, except I added another 50g carbs, had 4 glasses of milk, and 2 spoonfuls of peanut butter 5 minutes ago. Oh, and I'm eating an apple. So another 75g carbs. I already drink Gatorade powder during my workouts. It's 25g carbs, and I have another 50g post workout. So I just say 75 total.
As for the training past failure, I've been lead to believe differently. Volume will do a lot more than training until failure. Not only that, but training EVERY muscle THAT intensely would just be ridiculous. If that works for you, that's great, keep it up. But it's not for me.

Today's workout was rushed because my band mates were on my ass. This Friday will be my last time playing drums in a band. I haven't done deads in months, so I kept it light to get my form back. But, here's how the workout went...
5 minute warm up on the treadmill
Dynamic stretches
Squats- 45x10 65x15 95x5 (warm ups) 125x5 145x5 165x5 180x5
Deads- 135x5 145x5 155x5
BB calf raises- 155x5 165x5 175x5

I actually bought a can of oxygen from Spencers the other day. I tried using it during my workout today. I'm not sure if it really did much, but it made me wonder... if we only breathed oxygen, would we recover faster?

get at least 350 grams of protein, 300 at the minimum. If you were eating like i said you wouldnt weigh 138 for very long my friend.If you ate that kind of food at your age and lifted like I said, 'and im sure how your powerlifting buddy lifts" you would **** your pants at all the solid weight and strength you would put on in 6 months. See if your friend will let you work out with him. That would be your second best supplement after food

[Priest315]

I just looked at your albums and theyre incredible! Your very skinny but not boney by any means. Your completely ripped! Your heading in the right direction. There is no question in my mind at this point that you are gonna have to eat more to get bigger. Your really doing a great job though. Keep up the good work.

[aild54]

Originally Posted by Priest315

I just looked at your albums and theyre incredible! Your very skinny but not boney by any means. Your completely ripped! Your heading in the right direction. There is no question in my mind at this point that you are gonna have to eat more to get bigger. Your really doing a great job though. Keep up the good work.

Thanks, man. It's so nice to hear good things. I'm 10 lbs. heavier now, though. I would say 6%-8% bodyfat, but 10 lbs. heavier. It'll be a lot easier to put on mass now that I don't have drums killing my shoulders, hips, and burning a lot of calories.

[tinyme]

you workout seems like the one zir red gave me...

first one was like almost like yours upper, lower, push, pull, lower

then i got tired of going to the gym 5 days so he switch me to
upper, lower, rest, upper lower

i was supersetting a lot.

it worked for me but i got exhausted doing supersets every exercise, but i wasnt following his diet plan.

good luck man

ill keep an eye on this

[aild54]

Originally Posted by tinyme

you workout seems like the one zir red gave me...

first one was like almost like yours upper, lower, push, pull, lower

then i got tired of going to the gym 5 days so he switch me to
upper, lower, rest, upper lower

i was supersetting a lot.

it worked for me but i got exhausted doing supersets every exercise, but i wasnt following his diet plan.

good luck man

ill keep an eye on this

Thanks for stopping by, bro. Did you like the split set up?

Btw, I couldn't work out yesterday... or eat much. Yesterday was my last time playing at a show, and am now no longer in a band.
Today is a push day. I'll upload my workout and diet whenever I get home from work later tonight.

[dapack]

agree with everyone, you need to eat everything in sight, it sucks, but no way around it. having such a fast metabolism you can get away with a lot more than i could, so eat everything in sight. i hope in 11 weeks i am as ripped as you. even though you said you are 6' 138lbs, really would not call you skinny, you do have good muscles, you would easily be 160+ if you bodyfat was up more, no need to be that low unless you are stepping on stage. keep up the work.

[aild54]

Originally Posted by dapack

agree with everyone, you need to eat everything in sight, it sucks, but no way around it. having such a fast metabolism you can get away with a lot more than i could, so eat everything in sight. i hope in 11 weeks i am as ripped as you. even though you said you are 6' 138lbs, really would not call you skinny, you do have good muscles, you would easily be 160+ if you bodyfat was up more, no need to be that low unless you are stepping on stage. keep up the work.

Thanks for stopping by, and for the kind words. I just have a hatred for bodyfat, so I don't let myself get fat. There's no need to be fat. These days I'm like 8% or something.

As for todays diet...
1 scoop of whey, 1 granola bar, 1 banana, 2 spoonfuls of peanut butter
6 egg whites, 1 cup of oats, 1 banana
Superpump250
workout
1 scoop of whey, 75g dextrose
6 egg whites, 1 egg yolk, 1/2 cup of oats, 1 banana, 1 sweet potato
4 oz. shrimp, 3/4 cup of whole grain pasta, 1/2 cup of white rice
4 oz. ground beef, 1 bag of tuna, 1 apple, and 2 spoonfuls of peanut butter

Today was a decent workout. I had really short rest periods, and was going really slow on the Arnold presses, hence the balls light weight.
5 minutes on treadmill
Dynamic stretches
Incline DB press- 15'sx12x2 20'sx11 (warmups) 25'sx12 27.5'sx13 30'sx13 35'sx11 (30 seconds of rest) 25'sx11
Arnold Presses- 10'sx12 15'sx11 15'sx11 17.5'sx11 (superset) lateral raises with left arm only 10'sx5
Scapula depresses on a dip bar BWx15 BWx15 BWx12
Rotator cuff work

[aild54]

Today's diet got a little messed up. I was hanging out with this girl today, and, long story short, we ended up falling asleep for a few hours. I've started taking melatonin and have been having crazy ass dreams. She said I twitch a lot in my sleep. I woke up to myself practically yelling in my sleep. Whoops.
Anyway, my diet was as follows...
1 granola bar, 1 banana, 1 scoop of whey, 1 bag of tuna, 2 spoonfuls of natty PB
An apple, 4 oz. chicken breast
1 cup of oats, 4 oz. chicken breast, 1 banana
workout
1 scoop of whey, 75g dextrose
6 egg whites, 1 sweet potato, 1/2 cup of oats
4 oz. ground beef on 2 slices of WG bread with a glass of skim milk and 2 spoonfuls of natty PB... again

Today was a pretty good workout. I got some free samples with my last supplement order. I tried combining White Flood with some nitric oxide called Maximize, or something. That was just too much and I started getting light headed, so I toned it down a little. For some reason, my ears popped during the glute-ham raises, and stayed popped for like 15 minutes.

5 minutes on treadmill and dynamic stretches
Front squats45x13 65x13 75x13 (warm-ups) 95x12 105x11 115x11 120x11
GHR's BWx5 BWx5 BWx5 BWx3
BB calf raises 95x13 95x13 95x11

[aild54]

Sorry I didn't update yesterday. I woke up at 3:30 AM, and couldn't get back to sleep. So I just got up and ate a lot, but I went to bed at 7:30 PM. So I couldn't really get on. I'm still really tired from that **** happening, so I'm going to bed at 8:30 tonight. Today's diet and workout went pretty well, actually. I'm slowly adjusting to being back in school, but I'm pretty glad this is my senior year. I'm sick of doing this ****. Haha, anyway, here's how today went/is going down. I'll list the macros, and won't include the small amounts of fats and protein found in some carb sources...
2 cups of Cheerios with some skim milk on top, 1 banana, 1 scoop of whey, 1 spoonful of natty PB, and a glass of OJ. (30g pro, 110g cho, 15g fat)
4 oz. ham on 2 slices of WG bread and an apple. (25g pro, 50g cho, 5g fat)
4 oz. steak, 1 cup of oats, 1 banana, and some small beef stick thing. It was like 1 or 2 ounces of beef. (35g pro, 75g cho, 15g fat)
I was pretty beat today, so I took half a scoop of Shock Therapy
1 scoop of whey, 75g dextrose. (25g pro, 75g cho, 0g fat)
6 egg whites, plus 2 yolks, 1 sweet potato, 1/2 cup of oats (25g pro, 50g cho, 15g fat)
4 oz. ground beef, 2 slices WG bread, 1 banana. (25g pro, 50g cho, 10g fat)

Totals: 165g protein, 410g carbs, 65g fat = about 2,900 cals. Wahoo.

Today was an upper day. It went like thissss...
5 minute warm-up on treadmill
Dynamic stretches
BB rows- 45x12x2 65x5 (warm-ups) 85x5 95x5 105x5 115x5
BB bench- 65x10 75x10 (warm-ups) 100x5 110x5 120x5 125x5
Pull-ups- 10x5 15x5 20x5 25x5
Push-press- 55x5 70x5 85x5
Rotator cuff work

[n88tr]

165 g protein?? Come on bro you need to do better than that.

1.2-1.6 g per lb bodyweight on bulk
2.0 g per lb bodyweight on cut

Eating can be hard, lol I know, never enough food at grocery store! insanity...

[aild54]

Originally Posted by n88tr

165 g protein?? Come on bro you need to do better than that.

1.2-1.6 g per lb bodyweight on bulk
2.0 g per lb bodyweight on cut

Eating can be hard, lol I know, never enough food at grocery store! insanity...

Haha, 138 x 1.2 = 165.6. Actually, in June-July I was getting 200g protein. But I always hear people saying that you only need 1g per pound of bodyweight on a bulk. So, I can do better, for sure. I like eating meat. But I've heard it's just unnecessary.

[dapack]

Originally Posted by aild54

Haha, 138 x 1.2 = 165.6. Actually, in June-July I was getting 200g protein. But I always hear people saying that you only need 1g per pound of bodyweight on a bulk. So, I can do better, for sure. I like eating meat. But I've heard it's just unnecessary.

Different view points about protein and actual amount needed, if you are gaining at 1g to 1.2g per lb than go for it and leave it. Personally I try and get close to 2g a lb, but I don't do good with carbs so my protein is high.