[mperk]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

It seems like everything in Chinese has something to do with Chee, too much chee, bad chee, blocked chee lol. Glad it worked for ya though, I wonder what he gave you.

I'm going to look for the bottle - it was good stuff - or maybe it was all in my head! hahahaha

[MikeNYY420]

Haha, yeah there's definitely the possibility of placebo.

So today I pulled an Arnold and I had one of the best lifting sessions in a while. About 15 minutes before I was to start working out at my house I was drinking my Nano Vapor. Well my stomach started feeling kinda crappy. My brother had just got some pretty high grade **** so I took the smallest rip I could. 30 seconds or so later my mind just felt cleared and my stomach very settled. I couldnt' even wait to work out, I walked out and started warming up and did some BO rows about 5 minutes after that. I went from set to set without getting distracted, got a whole back workout and a great pump. I'm very happy I did that.

Anyway:

BACK

BO rows
135-10,9,8,8

Wide grip pull ups
10,7,5

Seated rows
70-12
100-10
110-10
115-8

Reverse grip lat pulldown
115-8,8,8

Hyperextensions
25,20

PWO Cell-tech and 2 scoops whey protein for me. I'll put up the nutrition tonight.

[MikeNYY420]

Here's the nutrition for the day, I feel extremely bad today and I couldn't eat much at all past about 4 today. I force fed a lot and only hit like 3000 cals ****. Well here it is

Oh yeah and I drink a bunch of water today like a gallon and a half

Protein shake
Creatine
Nature Valley Bar(doctor said no more bananas)

1 cup oats(mistake to eat at once)
2 packets oatmeal

Protein shake
Nano Vapor

Cell Tech Protein shake

3 chicken legs
Lettuce
tomato
Italian dressing
Fish oil pills
multi(ran out so had to get more today)

Iced tea
Cookie and a half(lil guys)
chicken leg

peanut butter
beans

salmon fillet

pop tart for right now cuz I'm still low.

Macros: 2920 cal, 77g fat, 412g car, 167g pro

I'm gonna be starting Slin Sane soon, I can't wait I think it will help me get to 185 by September. This is going to be the most intense 2 months of my training lift so far. This will become another slin sane log.

[MikeNYY420]

I can't believe I didn't know how to bench until today! I usually bench with my elbows near my sides. I tried benching with them way out today and the pump is unbelievable. My pecs have never been this big! No wonder my bench wasn't very good. I'll be benching big in no time! Updates later.

[islander]

lol sweet. Interesting to see how fast your bench does go up. It does isolate your chest more becuase it take your sholder and your tris out of it that much more. Becarful your not flaring your elbows to much as you can strain your shoulders. May want to ask Zir about that. Flared elbows and wide grip is contested point about what it can do.

[MikeNYY420]

Yeah I was thinking about that earlier, I read that it works your chest more but puts more strain on the shoulders. For that reason I stopped like an idea above my chest.

I just took some pictures that I'm pretty happy with they'll be up today for sure.

DB bench press
70lbs-11
75-10
80-6

Smith machine bench press(widish grip and elbows)
115-12
135-8,7,6,7

Incline DB bench
55-8,10,8

I did a light jog and some rotator cuff exercises before doing my warm up DB benching. I got a huge pump today and it felt great, I'll be benching like that a lot more from now on. I'll have to make sure that the elbows aren't too far out though. I'm eating much better today should hit 4000 calories no problem. Pictures and nutrition later.

[MikeNYY420]

Oh and I didn't train to failure, I can put up the 90s for a few reps. And I want the 100s!

[MikeNYY420]

Nutrition!!!

Protein shake in water
creatine
nature valley bar

1/2 cup oats
1 packet oatmeal
Iced tea
Chicken breast

Nano vapor
Cell tech
2 scoop protein in water

Mountain Dew
Pop corn
pudding 1/2 cup
1/2 cup beans
wg bread
wad of chicken
tomato
mayo
ranch

peanut butter
popcorn
pop tart
ice cream sandwich
iced tea
sunkist
1.2 cup oats
1 packet oatmeal
chicken breast

protein shake

Little dirty today, oh well. I'm happy with the macros: 3705 cals, 75.5g fat, 564g carbs, 223g protein. A little high, yes but I think I should have a protein shake before bed because my last meal's like 3 hours before bed.

**** tomorrow I need to vary the protein sources and get more greens. My mom needs to going shopping!!!

I couldn't get the pics up today, sorry guys, I'll have them tomorrow for sure.

[MikeNYY420]

Here's the recent pics, I rushed with them a bit and I'm not too happy with them, I'll post up the ones I like then take more later.

[MikeNYY420]

I've put an inch on both arms over the last month! It's the food and the Cell Tech.

[Bubbaloo]

Lookin good bro!
(I like your facial expression on the front lat spread hahaha)

[MikeNYY420]

Oh yeah I got my big goofy bodybuilder smile. Yeah I thought that'd make some people laugh haha.

[rmike]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

I've put an inch on both arms over the last month! It's the food and the Cell Tech.

and your hard work! good job!

[MikeNYY420]

Ah the hard work should be a given lol.

[rmike]

yeah you got that right! i just went through your entire log and im impressed. you are motivated and determined to do this. not that im ancient or that your a baby but i wish i had the will to go natty and the motivation when i was 16.l im following with you, i think im gonna start a log in a month or so. ill probably hit you guys up for some advice if thats cool. keep up the good work!

[MikeNYY420]

There's nothing I like more than giving advice so anything you wanna know I'd be happy to try to help. I gotta remember to read up tonight so I can answer the questions . My motivation is that there are still seniors that are bigger than me. I just wanna be the best.

Great to have you following! I'll be looking forward to your log too.

[rmike]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

There's nothing I like more than giving advice so anything you wanna know I'd be happy to try to help. I gotta remember to read up tonight so I can answer the questions . My motivation is that there are still seniors that are bigger than me. I just wanna be the best.

Great to have you following! I'll be looking forward to your log too.

you can get there bro, your already on your way. yeah im definitely gonna do a log when school slows down for me. no longer than a month from now for sure. im pumped! especially after reading yours! thanks bro, ill check back with you. i may even do my epiotren cycle then but idk. i got so many ph's layin around here! lol i guess we will see
goodluck bro!

[mperk]

Originally Posted by rmike

yeah you got that right! i just went through your entire log and im impressed. you are motivated and determined to do this. not that im ancient or that your a baby but i wish i had the will to go natty and the motivation when i was 16.l im following with you, i think im gonna start a log in a month or so. ill probably hit you guys up for some advice if thats cool. keep up the good work!

Yeah x 2 for me! great work dude - i can see a lot more thickness in your chest! and the delts and tri are looking excellent too. If I was to suggest, do more wide grip pullups - even with weight if you can. Your lats will really explode and give you lots of definition on your back - abd make that taper even more awsome!

Props dude

[rmike]

Originally Posted by mperk

Yeah x 2 for me! great work dude - i can see a lot more thickness in your chest! and the delts and tri are looking excellent too. If I was to suggest, do more wide grip pullups - even with weight if you can. Your lats will really explode and give you lots of definition on your back - abd make that taper even more awsome!

Props dude

yeah thats my favorite back excercise, i even bought one of them doorway chinup bars. i was skeptical but they hold alot of weight. lol
what variations of chinups do u like best mike?i got really good at the behind the neck ones but i hear they are bad for the shoulder. i definitely think that would make your back sick bro! that builds muscle fast

[MikeNYY420]

I do wide grip pull ups every back day. I was just reading a strength and conditioning book and it reminded me to further analyze my training and nutrition. I did hit 4000 calories today so I'm pretty happy about that.

Thanks guys, I need to start training to failure again, my recovery should be very good. I actually used to do chins(underhand) for lats because Zir had told me those are best for lats. Pull ups are more for teres I guess. I think as a switch up I might do chins again cuz I've been doing wide grip pull ups for a while. I can do like 12 wide grip and 20 normal grip so I'm pretty happy with that.

Anything behind the neck is harder on the rotator cuff than in front of the neck. I stay in front for the most part.

I was hoping someone would notice the chest thinkness . I saw that too the triceps are much better now, I've brought them up a lot. I think I'm gonna do a completely new split, that will be up today or tomorrow. This will be geared toward hypertrophy but I will still max and do lower reps occasionally to maximize results.

Nutrition:
Protein shake
nature valley bar
1/2 cup oats
1 packet oatmeal
salmon fillet
2 tbs peanut butter
19 raspberries
1 can tuna
2 wg bread
1 tbs ranch
19 pretzels
snickers minis(4)I think
pop tart
half cup oats 1 packet oatmeal again
fat free hotdog
iced tea
spaghetti
sunkist mmm sugar
burger
sauce
burger number 2
pretzels
1 cup milk
2 oz nuts
1 scoop protein.

I'm hungry. Damn, I just brushed my teeth lol. Macros: 3980, 104.5 fat, 501g carb, 220g protein.

I'll refine this to cut out insoluble fibers, because they can't be digested and therefore yield no energy. I'll count soluble fibers in half because they are only partially digested by the bacteria of the colon.

I'll do a saturated fat count. I just learned that some incomplete proteins are only one amino acid away from being complete. So combining two incomplete proteins that complement the missing amino acid(s) of the other will make it complete.

I'll start to take this into consideration when counting protein, I think after the more I read that 5000 calories really isn't necessary for me.

Since I'm a strength athlete I don't need carbs as much for my sport as an endurance athlete. I do want to keep my muscles full of glycogen though because it attrachs water, making my muscles bigger and fuller. So 400-500g a day should suffice.

I think that the 1g per lbs of bw can be disputed because of the constant remaking of cells. And whether amino acids are recycled or not, someone needs to research and figure that out. I think my 200-220g a day is perfect, a little extra to be safe.

[mikeh40+]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

Sugar alcohol has a laxative effect when eating in amounts near 50g(huge huge amount) but some people eat that much of it so they have to have the warning on products containing sugar alcohol.

They gave me this stuff called Align, it's good bacteria, like I said, well I took one yesterday and I see a difference. My gut isn't bloated this morning and I feel like I could eat a horse! Usually I struggle to get a protein shake down. This is great hopefully it makes my acid stomach go away too.

It seems like everything in Chinese has something to do with Chee, too much chee, bad chee, blocked chee lol. Glad it worked for ya though, I wonder what he gave you.

good to see something is helping the guts out mike,, had something similar awhile back, not a fun thing for sure,,, yea ya chee ,the cheenese just love their chee, hell there`s even a cheea pet out there,, cha cha cheea... hahaaaa

[MikeNYY420]

Hahaha, I think the Chinese use Chee like the people of Marklar use the word Marklar. If you don't watch South Park you're clueless.

I think the main thing was just eating too much fiber. I'm good now. The good bacteria was bad because I didn't have a good bacteria deficiency. That medicine would only help if that was the case or if I had too much bad bacteria, the doctor just gave it to me without knowing if it was right or not. Very unprofessioonal and I had to suffer for his stupidity. The bacteria digested all of the fiber instead of some like normal. This means no binding agent to the poo. Uh huh. Haha.

[rmike]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

I do wide grip pull ups every back day. I was just reading a strength and conditioning book and it reminded me to further analyze my training and nutrition. I did hit 4000 calories today so I'm pretty happy about that.



Thanks guys, I need to start training to failure again, my recovery should be very good. I actually used to do chins(underhand) for lats because Zir had told me those are best for lats. Pull ups are more for teres I guess. I think as a switch up I might do chins again cuz I've been doing wide grip pull ups for a while. I can do like 12 wide grip and 20 normal grip so I'm pretty happy with that.

Anything behind the neck is harder on the rotator cuff than in front of the neck. I stay in front for the most part.

I was hoping someone would notice the chest thinkness . I saw that too the triceps are much better now, I've brought them up a lot. I think I'm gonna do a completely new split, that will be up today or tomorrow. This will be geared toward hypertrophy but I will still max and do lower reps occasionally to maximize results.

Nutrition:
Protein shake
nature valley bar
1/2 cup oats
1 packet oatmeal
salmon fillet
2 tbs peanut butter
19 raspberries
1 can tuna
2 wg bread
1 tbs ranch
19 pretzels
snickers minis(4)I think
pop tart
half cup oats 1 packet oatmeal again
fat free hotdog
iced tea
spaghetti
sunkist mmm sugar
burger
sauce
burger number 2
pretzels
1 cup milk
2 oz nuts
1 scoop protein.

I'm hungry. Damn, I just brushed my teeth lol. Macros: 3980, 104.5 fat, 501g carb, 220g protein.

I'll refine this to cut out insoluble fibers, because they can't be digested and therefore yield no energy. I'll count soluble fibers in half because they are only partially digested by the bacteria of the colon.

I'll do a saturated fat count. I just learned that some incomplete proteins are only one amino acid away from being complete. So combining two incomplete proteins that complement the missing amino acid(s) of the other will make it complete.

I'll start to take this into consideration when counting protein, I think after the more I read that 5000 calories really isn't necessary for me.

Since I'm a strength athlete I don't need carbs as much for my sport as an endurance athlete. I do want to keep my muscles full of glycogen though because it attrachs water, making my muscles bigger and fuller. So 400-500g a day should suffice.

I think that the 1g per lbs of bw can be disputed because of the constant remaking of cells. And whether amino acids are recycled or not, someone needs to research and figure that out. I think my 200-220g a day is perfect, a little extra to be safe.

thanks alot buddy, thats what i needed to know. diet looks good, makin me hungry lol

[MikeNYY420]

Wow I just had another great work out! I've been reading about muscle physiology and neuromuscular adaptations. In doing so I've decided that for my goals I should be stimulating the fast twitch muscle fibers as much as possible. Now that I now how to do that I did. So all of my reps today were quick, powerful and explosive.

Just like I often purpose a return to feudalism during history class, right now I'm purposing a return for my self to the ancient, tried and true 3 day split. This is to increase the frequency of my training.

Standing barbell curls
75-12
80-8,6,5

Standing one arm hammer curls
35-15,15
40-13,11
45-9,9

Chins
12,8,6

Seated rows
115-9,10,8

Lat pulldowns
110-10,8,6

BO rows
115-9
125-9,8

I got a great overall pump from this work out and I took some great pictures of what I look like pumped. I really think the other batch of pictures sucked, all the new pictures look way bigger. They'll be up today along with the nutrition.

[MikeNYY420]

Wow I just had another great work out! I've been reading about muscle physiology and neuromuscular adaptations. In doing so I've decided that for my goals I should be stimulating the fast twitch muscle fibers as much as possible. Now that I now how to do that I did. So all of my reps today were quick, powerful and explosive.

Just like I often purpose a return to feudalism during history class, right now I'm purposing a return for my self to the ancient, tried and true 3 day split. This is to increase the frequency of my training.

Standing barbell curls
75-12
80-8,6,5

Standing one arm hammer curls
35-15,15
40-13,11
45-9,9

Chins
12,8,6

Seated rows
115-9,10,8

Lat pulldowns
110-10,8,6

BO rows
115-9
125-9,8

I got a great overall pump from this work out and I took some great pictures of what I look like pumped. I really think the other batch of pictures sucked, all the new pictures look way bigger. They'll be up today along with the nutrition.

[rmike]

i notice that when i stop really feelin a paticular excercise, instead of completey changing what im doing, i just do like you said. even with pushups. if you do them slow and `steady every time you wont always get a big burn the next day. when you use that explosive, fast motion you are talking about then your sure to notice them

[MikeNYY420]

Yeah the constant change is necessary. I think it would benefit me because I'm a strength athlete more than aerobic, to keep the fast twitch fibers in use as much as I can and make variations to the routine in other places.

Last night's when I first started reading this book so I'm only like 30 pages in, but I think I'm gaining a basic understanding of the topic.

[dapack]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

Thanks guys, I need to start training to failure again, my recovery should be very good. I actually used to do chins(underhand) for lats because Zir had told me those are best for lats. Pull ups are more for teres I guess. I think as a switch up I might do chins again cuz I've been doing wide grip pull ups for a while. I can do like 12 wide grip and 20 normal grip so I'm pretty happy with that.

interesting about the chins, going to try that for awhile and see what happens. read your whole log, very impressive for someone your age, and your lift are awesome. do not see to many teenages with the drive you have, no doubt you will reach your goals. heck i have trouble getting my 15yr old to workout and when he does it is chest and arms, chest and arms, repeat everyday of the week. guess it is just not his thing so really don't mention going to the gym to often anymore. anyways start to ramble. great job again.

[rmike]

Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

Yeah the constant change is necessary. I think it would benefit me because I'm a strength athlete more than aerobic, to keep the fast twitch fibers in use as much as I can and make variations to the routine in other places.

Last night's when I first started reading this book so I'm only like 30 pages in, but I think I'm gaining a basic understanding of the topic.

what is the book you are reading? i found some interesting stuff in a magazine about fast twitch fibers a couple weeks ago. if i can find it again i will post it for you bc i think its somethin you will like and benefit from with what your doing right now.
thanks for the info

[MikeNYY420]

That'd be great Mike. I'm reading the essentials of strength training and conditioning.

Dapack, thanks bro, great to have you here, honestly the things you guys say motivate me as much as anything and more than a lot of stuff. If that made sense. Try starting the back workout with chins or deads. They are the two most demanding exercises you'll probably be performing on back day.