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Old 03-05-2008, 08:53 AM   #91
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true mass is a good weight gainer. if weightgainers are your thing, you should try it. fat content is a tiny bit high but it's the best tasting shake out there IMO.

great value too. it's a bit on the expensive side but you got to look at the serving size and a bunch of other things. the serving size is about 145g. it has 630 calories per serving. 50g of protein. about 70g of carbs, 14g of sugar (so it's fairly low in sugar). and 17g of fat. it also has 6g of fiber per serving. it also has about 25 different vitamins and minerals and they all have about 100% of the daily value.

if you compare that to say, optimum nutrition's serious mass, calories are 1250 per serving, fat is 4.5 grams (pretty low), about 252g of carbohydrates (talk about crazy), 40g of sugar (wow), and 50g of protein. the vitamins and minerals are up there too. but if you look at the serving size, it says, 2 heaping scoops which is (334g). so obviously the scoops are much bigger than true mass. that's more than double the serving of true mass. good luck getting all that into your stomach without feeling sick. if you cut everything in half, the serving size will be closer to true mass' and it will have about 20g of sugar still, about 600 calories (which is about the same as true mass), but only 25g of protein!

so always look at the serving sizes and what you're getting for that in terms of nutrients. IMO, not many weightgainers compare to true mass. there are some places where you can get a tub of true mass for 35$.

if you look at muscletech's weight gainer, same scenario. the nutritional value is good but the serving size is much larger than true mass.

just something to think about.

KM, my macros vary so much from day to day that i can't really post them.

oh, and another thing about true mass is that, like syntha 6, it has 9 different type of protein that digest at different rates so it feed your body right when you drink it, and long afterwards with protein as well.

if i just want some xtra protein and not all the carbs/calories of true mass, i don't use syntha 6 because of the fat content. i use optimum whey protein. so those are the two shakes i'm using right now.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:19 PM   #92
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ibanezman88 appreciate it man. i went to gnc here and it is 67 dollar, i live in canada and in USD it is like 69 . i dont know how much the shipping would be if i order of orbit nutrition.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:40 PM   #93
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Hey bro. Looking large in your sig pic. I understand the not being able to do the comp. for now. Don't worry you got plenty of time to keep growing to only do better in the future. I'll keep following along with the bulk!
 
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:03 PM   #94
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thanks bro
ok, i'm gonna post today's log. the only thing i gotta do is cut back on the drinks that have sugar. i'm outa control. it's a little embarrassing to post but here we go.

5:30 - wake up
meal 1
Turkey Breast Sandwhich (wheat bread)
2 cups of whole milk

8:00-9:30 - workout

9:30 - Meal 2
3 sugar cookies and 2 donut holes
1 cup of orange juice
2 scoops of optimum whey w/5g of creatine monohydrate

12:30 - Meal 3
Bolona Sandwhich (3 slices of wheat bread and cheeze)
8 oz. of chicken breast
mountain due (omg, embarrassing, oh well)

3:00 - Meal 4
same as meal 3

5:00 - Meal 5
3 scoops of true mass

7:00 - Meal 6
4 cups of whole grain pasta
1 can of tuna
apple juice

soon to be eaten - Meal 7
i'm planning on
2 or 3 cups of white rice with beans
another true mass

calorie intake today is around 3600
protein was at about 255g

i needed some extra calories, normally i would only have 2 shakes but i ran out of food and didn't really have a cheat meal today. my post workout nutrition wasn't the best. i ran out of white bread so that was the only thing that was simple carbs. today was hectic and i hardly had time to use the bathroom. and i ran out of food at my house except for what i posted which is why my diet seem odd today. not my usual. hopefully i'll go grocery shopping tomorrow.
i'm planning on buying
eggwhites
oatmeal
milk
bread
eggs
chicken breast
whole grain pasta
brown rice

this was my workout

Squat - 5x6,4,4,6,6 225lbs,275lbs,315lbs,265lbsx2
Leg press - 4x10 300,400,500x2 (5 plates on each side. 10 plate total)
Leg Extension - 4x15,15,12,12 110lbs,130lbs,145lbs,160lbs
Lying Leg curl - 4x8-12 150lbs,190lbs,210lbs,220lbs
Dombell Stiff Legged Deadlift - 3x10 80lbs,100lbs,110lbs

squats were ass to the ground deep. 315lbs for 4 reps. leg press was feet shoulder width apart, toward the middle of the sled, all the way down 'til the machine wouldn't go any further. 10 plates for 10 reps.

i have been tired all day today. unbelievably!!! and my legs have been hurting so bad i was having trouble even talking to customers. i was in a pretty bad mood all day trying not to show it. i always feel like shit after a leg workout. but it was a damn good workout. i had so much energy and stregth.
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:34 PM   #95
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ok, today was a weird day as far as diet goes

i wanted to get some extra sleep since i did squats. i havn't been sleeping as much lately so i decided to sleep until i woke up with no alarm clock.

10:45 - meal 1
about 1 cup of frosted mini wheats w/whole milk
breakfast sandwich (sausage and biquit)
3 scrambled eggs
apple juice w/5g of creatine monohydrate
1 pack of animal pack
1 pack of animal flex

1:40 - One 5 hour energy extra strenth

2:00-3:20 - workout

3:30 - meal 2
one hashbrown
2 nutragrain bars
1 orange
orange juice

4:15 - meal 3
3 scoops of true mass w/5g of creatine

7:30 - meal 4
2 cups of seasoned white rice w/pork
6 oz of steak
1 cup of walnuts
8 oz soda

Before i go to sleep tonight - meal 5

1/2 cup of oats in 1 cup of whole milk
2 scoops of optimum whey

workout - chest/side delts

incline barbell bench press - 6x6,5,4,3,6,6 155lbs,185lbsx3,165lbsx2
seated hammer strenth press (lower chest) - 5x10-12 2 45lbs + 1 25lbs each side
Incline Dumbell flies - 4x12 25lbs
Cable Crossover flies - 4x12-15 55lbs
Superset (standing dumbell side laterals/seated machine side laterals) 3 sets to faliure 30lbs dumbell and 30lbs on machine + 1 set of dumbells non-supersetted with 25lbs

that was my workout.
i got an amazing pump on my chest and side delts.

i'm trying to shock my shoulders into growth by doing that super set. i got a rediculous pump.

on the dumbell flies, i went as deep and as wide as i can go. i went slow as well.
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Old 03-10-2008, 12:14 AM   #96
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ibaneze, just letting you know I'm seeing this, I'll take a real close look tomorrow as I'm off to bed.

Just letting you know I'm watching so await a response tomorrow.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:14 PM   #97
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alright buddy
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:16 PM   #98
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Lying Leg curl - 4x8-12 150lbs,190lbs,210lbs,220lbs
stregth.
actually, those were seated leg curls.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:18 PM   #99
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looks like a real good workout you got in there,, hope this bulk goes well for ya bud,, what you weighing in at now and what you aiming for??
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You eat a shitload man. Not sure if you want to know what I think but I'm going to do so anyway because you love me

Anyway, your meals are full of Protein and Carbs- with sugar. I'd say your carbohydrate macro intake is majority simple Carbs. Simple sugars should only be consumed in the morning and post workout. I see you're more of a dirty bulk, that's fine man. Also like I said before, throw some high omega-3, 6, 9 nuts before bed as well as other monosaturates/poly's. Also, post workout you want to consume another percentage of your daily fat intake. Why? It increases your testosterone levels. Post-workout your body is struggling to keep testosterone levels sturdy/high- healthy fats aid in hormonal production. Just a little tip you could possibly use. Pre-workout nutrition is fine. All in all I'd say you're going to get pretty big from this, so nice job.

Training: Your Squats are definitely up there man, props for that! Jesus so is your Leg Press. I actually like DB Deadlifts- more of a natural motion. How do you like them? I personally think they should be implemented more in workout regimes.

I love the feeling after legs, it's bad but good at the same time. I usually pop a boner somewhere afterwards haha.

Keep it up man, hope you don't take what I said too badly, I really am just trying to help- if that means anything (cornyness lol).
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