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Old 03-30-2008, 11:17 PM   #271
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to have a good looking chest, you have to have complete development.

overall mass
upper chest
lower chest
mid chest
outer chest
a good rib cage

all of these can be developed using certain methods of training.

the gain overall mass on your chest, bench press obviously is a great exersise. dombells are great too because you contract your chest better. i suggest going all the way down on your bench press and not locking out. it's from the point where the bar touches your chest to about half way up when your chest is doing most of the work. make sure you warm up properly and go slow on the negative and explode up.

to work your upper chest, a number of different incline presses and flies help. this is very hard to do for some people including myself. if you have a weak upper chest, i suggest you work that out as your first AND second exersise. like incline bench press followed by incline flies or something like that. try a variet of different incline movements and hit it hard.

lower chest. the best exersise IMO that works the lower chest well is seated hammer strength press. it's the hammer machine that you sit down incline and push the handles out on a downward angle. your're pushing the weight streight forward parallel to the floor but you yourself are incline which makes it kinda like a decline bench press. however, this exersise allows you to go deeper to get that stretch so i suggest you take advantage of this.

mid chest - close grip bench press works your mid chest very well. but you have to go all the way down and you can stop it half way up. so it's like half reps or partial reps. the last part of the rep is what works primarily the triceps. or you can do the whole full range of motion, all the way down, all the way up if you're working chest and triceps on the same day. be careful when you're going all the way down on bench presses. make sure you're not bouncing the weight off, always warm up your rotators before doing this, and make sure you have a spotter if you're gonna go heavy. and warm up WELL!
another great thing to do for middle chest is twist the pinky side of the dumbells in at the top of a fly. you'll feel a great deal of contraction in your middle chest.

outer chest - if your biceps are not touching your chest when they're relaxed by your side, you need some outer chest development. when you do flies, go as wide as you can and stretch back as far back as you can being careful not to tear the peck muscle, and when you come back up, make sure you stop the weight shoulder width apart only and go back down. the important part here if you wanna work your out chest is the depth of the reps and not the full finish at the top.

rib cage - an expanded and full looking rib cage will make your chest look a lot bigger. this is where pullovers come into play. pullovers will give your chest an overall bigger look by expanding your rib cage. it's hard to explain but do them. do them free weight. a dumbell and EZ bar on a flat bench is how i do them. works great. they're good to do at the end of your chest workout.

i'm gonna take a picture of me doing a side-chest pose after my next chest workout. sometimes, people only take advice if they can visually see that you know what you're talking about.

Whats a good way to build a bigger chest
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:29 PM   #272
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I was saying pullovers cuz I've seen Silvio Samuel and Bob do pullovers for inner chest and I've done them and it's worked for me.

I'm sure the close grip helps, but IMO it's primarily a tricep exercise
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:43 PM   #273
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yeah it is
if you do half reps though, it's less tricep and more inner chest
pullovers are great
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:07 AM   #274
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IMO cant beat bench press for chest mass! Pullovers are sick too,
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Old 03-31-2008, 01:10 PM   #275
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I feel your chest mass Starts from the top if you have a thick upper chest. you can have a terrific middle chest and lower chest but if you have no upper chest your chest is nothing. I alternate what i start my chest workout one day will be bench or incline, then if start with bench ill do db incline and vice versa. sometime people use to much shoulder on barbell presses that is why db are so important
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:06 PM   #276
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I agree with barbell using too much delt.

question for you guys actually.

I use a slight angle (SLIGHT ANGLE) when doing dumbbell shoulder press to hit more of the anterior and lateral delts.

It seems to work better for my delts. any opinions?
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:25 PM   #277
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yes i agree its very good i play with the angels and find what helps me that day for my delts. same with chest i play with the angle from anywhere from 30 to about 75 the more angle the higher the chest
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:32 PM   #278
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awesome. i was just making sure. It sorta felt like cheating, but i figured i'm still working my entire delts and making great gains in them so I gotta be doing something right
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If you bring your elbows a lil closer to your chest while benching, it involves the chest more
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:57 PM   #280
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it also helps reduce the risk of injury in the rotator cuff muscles
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:09 PM   #281
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i do the angle thing on the dumbbell presses too.
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