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Old 03-08-2008, 04:59 PM   #451
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I usually stop by everybodys logs but dont always post like to see where everybody is you know but this new routine of your was so good I had to say something. Your explanation made perfect sense BTW hardcore is all I can say!
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:10 PM   #452
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I usually stop by everybodys logs but dont always post like to see where everybody is you know but this new routine of your was so good I had to say something. Your explanation made perfect sense BTW hardcore is all I can say!
haha thanks man glad it got you intrigued!!! hopefully see you around here more often mate.....
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Old 03-09-2008, 03:38 PM   #453
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Hey YM - awsome leg workout! - that westside workout is definately interesting - thanks for posting it. BTW - I vote w/ straps for the deads so you can get the most out of them. Do a few sets of forearm curls with just the bar (45) after to really exhaust the forearms if you like.

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Old 03-09-2008, 08:28 PM   #454
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Hey YM - awsome leg workout! - that westside workout is definately interesting - thanks for posting it. BTW - I vote w/ straps for the deads so you can get the most out of them. Do a few sets of forearm curls with just the bar (45) after to really exhaust the forearms if you like.

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yer i think i will be using straps for my assisstance exercises but keeping the deads without straps,, also think i might add some forearm work in,, thanks for that suggestion bro....
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:41 PM   #455
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yer i think i will be using straps for my assisstance exercises but keeping the deads without straps,, also think i might add some forearm work in,, thanks for that suggestion bro....
Same here! I'm going to be working on grip as well. Never realized how necessary they are when going heavy.
 
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:21 PM   #456
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Bench Press Day 2


Bench Press:
85kg x 3
85kg x 3
85kg x 3
85kg x 3
85kg x 3

Incline Dumbell Press:
24kg x 12
26kg x 10
26kg x 8

Military Press:
30kg x 12
40kg x 8
40kg x 6

EZ Pushdown:
31.25kg x 12
33.75kg x 12
33.75kg x 8

Dips (bodyweight):
12
10
Completely Gone, half


Reflections: Another great bench press day,, i was really pumped up for it and was determined to beat last weeks bench press total. I did it, i increased the weight by 5kg and did 5 full sets of 3 so i was extremely with that. It felt VERY heavy so next week i am only going to increase the weight by 2.5kg and hopefully bang out 5 sets of 3,, but that will definately be hard. Changed a few of the assisstance exercises because the gym was busy again,, but that is the good thing about this program im not really bothered what exercise it is as long as it hits a specific muscle group, so i was happy with what i got done. I don't think i will do dips last again either because on that 3rd set i just couldn't get back up,, all my strength completely went. Apart from this little hicup it was a really good workout and im really looking forward to wednesdays Squat workout. Been eating huge lately as well so i should be packing on the lbs although im not going to be paying close attention to the scale and just go by the mirror.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:52 PM   #457
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this looks like it shaping up great good for ya bud
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Old 03-10-2008, 03:40 PM   #458
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cheers mate,, really enjoying it
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:16 PM   #459
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As many of you know i have been doing alot of reading about Westside Barbell Training and it is a program i am definately going to do in the not too distant future. I am going to continue my current program for about 8 weeks but then i may well change to WSB. Its a great form of training and should greatly improve my strength. The great thing about this program is that it has room for manipulation and you don't have to follow it to a 'T', which suits me a lot more. You go more by feel than anything else, which is good in my book. Here's an article i have just been reading, really clears up a lot of things,, its a long read but for anyone interested in this it really is useful.


The Standard Template

There is a great story from Dave about how the Standard Template originated. I’ve heard it 435 different times and it never gets old. But that’s because Dave signs my checks and I have to nod and laugh whenever he says anything. All kidding aside, the Standard Template was really first introduced in Dave’s article, The Periodization Bible, Part I and is gone over extensively in The Periodization Bible, Part II. This was a two part series that made things easier for me and really broke things down. Remember, that I was in your shoes not too long ago, so I understand your frustration with some of this stuff. This is probably the most used template that people follow. Here is the general breakdown of the Standard Template. For many of you this is review, so bear with me.

Sunday – Dynamic Effort Bench

Dynamic Bench Press
Triceps
Shoulders
Lats/Upper Back


Monday – Max Effort Squat/DL

Max Effort Exercise
Hamstrings
Low Back
Abs


Wednesday – Max Effort Bench Press

Max Effort Exercise
Triceps
Shoulders
Lats/Upper Back


Friday – Dynamic Squat/DL

Dynamic Squat
Hamstrings
Low Back
Abs


Review of the Standard Template



2 days devoted to the bench press
2 days devoted to the squat/deadlift
2 days devoted to dynamic training
2 days devoted to max effort training
4 days devoted to repetition training

Now let’s review some of the training parameters within this template. For the sake of simplicity, I’m going to leave out chains and bands. Everything is going to be done with straight weight so there will be no confusion about percentages. Plus, I am going to leave out stance, grip changes, rest periods, etc. In reality, most of this stuff is inconsequential once you grasp the big picture.

Bench Press Parameters for the Standard Template (dynamic, max effort and repetition)


Dynamic bench press – 8 sets of 3 repetitions; all sets done are done with 55% of raw 1RM. Rest periods are approximately 60 seconds, but have never really seen the purpose of this, personally. The whole goal of speed day is to move the bar quickly on the concentric. If you need to take an extra minute to accomplish the goal of the day, then by all means, do so. Also, don’t get too hung up on changing your grips. The only reason why I changed my grip on this day was to keep track of the number of sets I was doing. Again, remember why you are doing what you are doing.

Max effort bench press – this includes a variety of exercises, but the most popular are the floor press, 2 board press, 3 board press, incline press and close grip bench press. On max effort bench press day, you pick one of these exercises and work to a 1RM. Most will switch to a different exercise every 1-2 weeks and simply try to break their record. On this day, based on your 1RM for THAT day, you will try to do 3 lifts at or above 90%. You can take as much rest as you want, but I would probably say around 3-5 minutes between your heaviest sets.

Triceps – one day is devoted to high intensity/low volume triceps work, the other is devoted to low intensity/high volume triceps. For example, high intensity triceps training would consist of 4 or 5 board presses or rack lockouts. The low intensity training will be geared to triceps extensions and pushdowns. On what day to put each of these is entirely up to you. In my experience, I’ve always had good results putting the high intensity day on dynamic bench day.

Shoulders – this is similar to the triceps in that there is a high intensity and low intensity day. The high intensity day is technically not high intensity, but high stress. In this category, I would put dumbbell bench press, dumbbell incline presses, military presses (with dumbbells or a straight bar) and dumbbell floor presses. In the low stress category, front raises, side raises and rear raises are good choices. Again, you can choose which day to put them on, but I liked putting the high stress shoulder training on dynamic bench day.

Lats/Upper back – Both days are devoted to lats and upper back and both are done with low intensity, high volume. The way that I worked this is that on Sunday, I would do lat work (usually a row or a pull-up) and no upper back work. On Wednesday, I would do another lat workout (but with a different exercise) and my low stress shoulder work would consist of a rear raise, face pull or a seated dumbbell power clean. So essentially, on the low stress shoulder day, I would kill two birds with one stone: an upper back exercise with a low stress shoulder movement. I did this because I never did front raises or side raises and felt that I got enough stimulation from my other work. It’s not gospel, but it’s something to think about.

Squat and Deadlift Parameters for the Standard Template

Dynamic Squat – All sets done on a parallel box. A three week wave is used using the following sets and reps.

Week 1 – 10x2 @ 50%
Week 2 – 10x2 @ 55%
Week 3 – 10x2 @ 60%

Upon completion of the 3rd week, you simply start the wave over again. All %’s are based on your best squat. Let’s disregard equipment at this point and say it’s based on your best 1RM of your box squat wearing whatever you usually wear on this day. Again, refer to my commentary on dynamic bench training regarding rest periods. This is not conditioning, this is speed work. Save your conditioning for another time.

Max Effort Squat and Deadlift – Similar to the max effort bench press, one exercise is used per week and worked up to a 1RM. Because most people have eliminated good mornings as a max effort exercise, I will choose the following for your exercises. I understand that many do not have these bars that I list, but this is the list, nonetheless:

Safety squat bar squat
Cambered bar squat
Manta Ray squat
(All squats are done on a low (1-2” below parallel), parallel or high (1-2” above parallel) box. As you can tell, there is a great many variations with these three exercises.
Rack deadlifts (or pin pulls)
Deadlifts while standing on elevated platform
Reverse band deadlifts
Again, you want to hit around 3 lifts at or above 90% of your 1RM for that day. Most people switch exercises every week or every 2 weeks. Try to break your PR from your previous effort. To make things easier, simply switch between a squat movement and a deadlift movement. Rest 3-5 minutes between your heaviest sets.

Hamstrings – now here is where things get tricky. Unlike the shoulders/triceps routine of high intensity/low intensity, many people are weak at such exercises as the glute ham raise that they simply need to do the exercise and not worry so much about sets/reps. If you don’t fall into this category, you can do bodyweight glute ham raises on one day, and on the other day, you can add a band or a plate for resistance.

Low Back – Again, we cannot really isolate the lower back without hitting the glutes and hamstrings. But you can pick from exercises such as back raises, 45 degree back raises, Reverse Hyperextensions, pull-throughs and good mornings. Depending on how you do some of these exercises (i.e. with a great amount of intensity) you can use ONE of these for your hamstring and low back exercise. For example, good mornings can be done for both. If you were to pick reverse hyperextensions or pull-throughs, then you can get away with doing an extra hamstring exercise. Some people can train their lower back twice a week, others cannot. A good way to do this is to pick one “easy” exercise (R.H., pull-throughs, un-weighted back raises or band good mornings) on one day and pick a heavier exercise on the second lower body training day.

Abdominals – These are usually trained heavy twice a week in the standard template. Some good exercises to choose from weighted sit ups, Roman Chair sit-ups, stability ball, hanging leg raises, side bends. This is not very complicated but you just need to do them; that’s usually the hardest part.
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That is pretty interesting, but i can see how it could alienate some people as their gyms may be limited to what they can access. Im always a fan of going near your 1RM every few months or so. I think if you max out too often and dont get enough sleep, you will end up like me and have sore hammys for 3 days. :|
 
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