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Old 09-10-2007, 09:39 PM   #1
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Hey, I'm 16 years old, 5' 11", and 150 pounds (pretty low body fat, I don't know specifically --> if you know how to figure this out, that would be great). I'm a senior in high school, which just started today and I live in Brooklyn. This is my first attempt at a really rigid routine, so if anything could be improved, please tell me. I work out at school, so my split is based around Monday through Friday, when school is open.

Here's my split:

Monday: Chest, Abs (today I did back because I am still sore from my test workout last week)
Tuesday: Back, Cardio (interval sprinting)
Wednesday: Shoulders, Abs
Thursday: Arms/Calves/Traps
Friday: Legs, Abs
Saturday: Cardio or rest
Sunday: Cardio if rest on Saturday, rest if cardio on Saturday

Here's my diet, with supplements including:

6:30am
-1 whole egg, 4 egg whites
-5 pieces of toast
-1 small glass of orange juice
-1 large glass of water

10:00am
-2 scoops of Syntha-6 (roughly 44g of protein)

12:00pm - 1:00pm (depending on lunch period... damn school)
-salad w/ olive oil and vinegar
-plate of pasta w/ red sauce
-sandwich w/ lots of meat and cheese (and nothing else)
-bottle of water

pre-workout (2:00pm-3:00pm, depending on school day...)
-1 scoop of NO-Xplode
-6g of Creatine Plus
-I drink a lot of water and/or gatorade while I work out

post-workout
- 1 scoop of Syntha-6 (roughly 22g of protein)

6:00pm-7:00pm
-some sort of meat (chicken, pork, steak, etc - I can't really choose, my mom cooks...)
-salad w/ olive oil and vinegar
-some sort of veggie (broccoli, cauliflower, etc - Again, I have no choice)
-1 large glass of milk
-I could have a bowl or plate of some sort of starch (pasta or rice), but I believe its bad to have that many carbs so soon before I go to bed. Is this true?

10:00pm
-I'm not sure what to have here, but I know I should have something (I generally go to bed at 11:00pm. Tonight I'm going to have 1 scoop of Syntha-6, which has maybe 15g of carbs (carbs before bed? bad idea?) and 22g of protein. Advice here would be great.

Actually, any advice on the diet would be great

Here is the back, ab, and trap routine I did today. I did my back because my chest is still sore from the test chest workout I did last week (it was a good workout...). I did my traps today because I was still pumped by the end of my workout and I had to wait 30 minutes for someone anyways... I rest about 45 to 60 seconds on most sets, with more like 2 minute rests on the deadlifts.

Back:
Widegrip Lat Pullover (standing up, grab a pulldown bar wide, and, keeping arms straight, push down using as much lat strength as possible)
set1 - 20 reps with 40lbs
set2 - 18 reps with 50lbs
set3 - 14 reps with 50lbs

I'm going to stick with 50lbs.

Sumo Deadlifts (I don't know why, but I like these ones better)
set1, 2, and 3 - 8 reps with 225lbs

I'm going to go for 10 reps next week.

Bentover Rows (I do these with a smith machine, with the bar locked so it doesn't slide forward or back. I don't know if this is good or not, but I like it...)
set1 - 10 reps with 115lbs
set2 - 10 reps with 115lbs
set3 - 9 reps with 115lbs
set4 - 9 reps with 115lbs

I'm gonna stick with 115 next week. If I can do them better, I'll try the last set with 125.

Seated Cable Rows (I use a staight bar, like what you use for pushdowns, and hold it with a slightly smaller than shoulder-width underhand grip)
set1 - 10 reps for 110lbs
set2 - 12 reps for 110lbs
set3 - 9 reps for 120lbs

I going to stick with 120 for next week.

Behind-the-neck Pulldowns
set1 - 15 reps with 100lbs
set2 - 14 reps with 100lbs
set3 - 12 reps with 100lbs

Since I'm trying to stay in the 10 to 20 range with reps, I'm going to stick with 100lbs next week.

Front Pulldowns (I hear these are different than behind-the-neck ones...)
set1 - 12 reps for 100lbs
set2 - 11 reps for 100lbs
set3 - 18 reps for 90lbs

That last set, I was going for the burn. Next week I'll try get them all with 100lbs (again, I'm shooting for a rep range of 10 to 20)

So that was my back routine, I'm gonna post this and write up my ab and trap routine... Advice is appreciated
 
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:51 PM   #2
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My ab routine:

Leg Raises (I'm not sure what these are called, I get on a 45 degree angled platform/bench thing and do leg raises, then lift my butt off the platform as well. Its a killer lower ab exercise)
set1 - 15 reps
set2 - 12 reps
set3 - 13 reps

I can't really add weight to this exercise, but I like it so I'll just try do more next week.

Body Curls
set1 - 16 reps each side with 60lbs in hand
set2 - 15 reps each side with 60lbs in hand
set3 - 15 reps each side with 60lbs in hand

This is generally the range I'm shooting for (I want some serious oblique growth) and I can't really go up in weight because the weight starts to slip from my hand around rep 12... nice...

Crunches w/ legs at 90 degrees resting on a bench
set1 - 30 reps
set2 - 30 reps

I'm going to add some weight (10lbs?) next week

Weighted Decline Crunches
set1 - 15 reps holding 25lbs over my chest
set2 - same

These make my have to hold my breath and are generally uncomfortable. I'm not even sure what they do... I just wanted to do a weighted sit up exercise. Any suggestions?

Crunches (I do these pretty slow, hands behind my head)
set1 - 30 reps
set2 - 25 reps

Just try to do more. Maybe do reps slower as well.

Finally, my trap workout (pretty basic and short)

Seated Dumbell Shrugs (I find doing them seated is harder)
set1 - 15 reps with 60lbs
set2 - 15 reps with 60lbs
set3 - 14 reps with 60 lbs

Standing Barball Shrugs
set1 - 10 reps with 185lbs
set2 - 10 reps with 185lbs

Upright Rows
set1 - 12 reps with 50lbs + EZ bar (dunno how much...)
set2 - 10 reps with same weight
set3 - 10 reps with same weight

I have slightly overdeveloped traps, so I go a little easy.

This is what I did today. I can tell I'm gonna be sore in the mornin'... nice... Tomorrow I'm going to do my chest workout plus cardio, which I'll post up here. Any advice on anything would be amazing. Thanks
 
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:20 PM   #3
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looks alright to me man.....you can check out my routine and get some ideas for it just click the link in my sig
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:29 PM   #4
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Routine looks good, let us know your progress to get a better understanding of your gains.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:09 AM   #5
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on your last meal of the day you want some casien protein. try and have some cottage cheese/milk/casien protein shake. Any one of those mentioned will do fine
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:00 PM   #6
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So today I did a chest workout:

Dumbell Incline Presses
set1 - 15 reps with 50lbs
set2 - 12 reps with 55lbs
set3 - 11 reps with 60lbs
set4 - 8 + 2 forced reps with 60 lbs

I'm going to stick with 60 next week.

Dumbell Flat Presses
set1 - 9 reps with 60lbs
set2 - 9 + 1 forced reps with 60lbs
set3 - 9 + 1 forced reps with 60lbs

Still stickin' with 60. I don't have an overdeveloped upper chest, I'm just tired by these sets so I can't do as much weight.

Barbell Decline Presses (on smith machine)
set1 - 9 reps with 135lbs
set2 - 9 reps with 135lbs
set3 - 8 reps with 135lbs
set4 - 8 reps with 135lbs

For some reason, I can't do very much weight on the decline. I hope it's just because I'm tired, but a few months ago I could do more like 175lbs on this. I'll give it time I guess. I'm gonna stick with 135 until I can do more like 12 reps.

Bent-over Cable Crossovers (to imitate flyes, which for some reason I really hate)
set1 - 15 reps with 60lbs
set2 - 13 reps with 60lbs
set3 - 13 reps with 60lbs

Gonna stick with 60lbs til I can do more like 20 reps

Cable Incline Crossovers (??? I put the cables as low as they go and do cable crossovers, bringing the handles to my head height. I'm trying to build definition in my upper pecs. If there's a better exercise for this, please tell me about it)
set1 - 10 reps with 40lbs
set2 - 12 reps with 40lbs
set3 - 20 reps with 30lbs (going for the burn)

I'm going to do these with 40lbs next week I think. After these, I did a burnout set of bench press with just a barbell. For this, I go as fast as I can til I can't do any more, then hold it up for a few seconds to catch my breath and do 5 more as fast as I can. I do this about 3 times, then I feel retarded for barely being able to bench 45lbs. I do around 40 - 50 reps like this, only for one set.

So my back, abs, and traps kill from yesterday; a good sign of course. I can feel my chest is gunna hurt too... Tomorow I am doing my shoulders, which I hope should be quick cuz I have school off Thursday... partying on Wednesday... It's college already
 
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:39 PM   #7
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Yesterday was my shoulder day. The workout wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Does anybody have an incredibly grueling shouler workout I might try? Thanks

So this is what I did:

Dumbell Overhead Presses
set1 - 15 reps with 35lbs
set2 - 8 reps with 40lbs
set3 - 9 reps with 40lbs

Gonna stick with 40lbs.

Smith Machine Barbell Overhead Press
set1 - 9 reps with 115lbs
set2 - 9 reps with 115lbs
set3 - 8 reps with 115lbs
set4 - 8 reps with 115lbs

Sticking with 115.

Bentover Lateral Raises
set1 - 20 reps with 15lbs
set2 - 12 reps with 20lbs
set3 - 10 reps with 20lbs

Front Raises superset w/ Lateral Raises
set1 - 10 reps with 20lbs w/ 10 reps with 20lbs
set2 - 10 reps with 20lbs w/ 10 reps with 20lbs
set3 - 10 reps with 20lbs w/ 10 reps with 20lbs

I'm going to go for more reps next week (maybe 12 for each)

I'm not too sore today so I think I might not being going hard enough. Any suggestions?
 
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:35 AM   #8
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post what u eat too, then we can make suggestions on what u should add/remove
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:47 PM   #9
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Not to threadjack, but I think that the term "hardgainer" is kind of a misnomer. I mean, aren't most people "hardgainers"? It implies that hardgainers have below average capability to put on mass, when in reality it is the super mesomorphs who are out of the ordinary. In any case, I personally think that if you stick to the big basics and eat right then the rest will take care of itself...my two cents.
 
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:30 PM   #10
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Not to threadjack, but I think that the term "hardgainer" is kind of a misnomer. I mean, aren't most people "hardgainers"? It implies that hardgainers have below average capability to put on mass, when in reality it is the super mesomorphs who are out of the ordinary. In any case, I personally think that if you stick to the big basics and eat right then the rest will take care of itself...my two cents.
not to be rude but ummm .....NO!!
 
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No to what? That most people are hardgainers or that big basics plus good diet=success?
 
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:38 PM   #12
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