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Old 07-27-2005, 09:34 AM   #1
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I wanted to give some information that should be common knowlegde but a refresher may not be a bad idea.
Squats-You can injure your back doing squats if you 1) grip the bar unevenly causing a twisting movement when you stand up from the squatting position, 2) stand with your spine rounded (hyperkyphosis) rather than straight, 3) lean so far forward that your knees travel forward over your toes and your heels come off the floor causing you to lose your balance, or 4) hold the bar too high on your neck causing you to lean forward.

Doing squats can damage your knees if you do not squat until your thighs are parallel with the floor or if you squat so quickly that you lose your balance. Also, if you squat too far, you are more likely to trap and damage the meniscus, or tissue that forms a cushion between the upper and lower leg bones at the knee.

Squats are a beneficial technique that an athlete, who has stopped growing, should include in any training program to increase strength and power. However, to prevent the injuries that can occur with this lift, athletes must avoid careless errors in technique.

Lifting behind the neck
Another type of lift that is potentially dangerous involves lifting weights behind your neck. This type of lift can easily injure the shoulder because in this position, too much strain is placed on the ligaments connecting the bones in the front of the shoulder. You can strengthen the trapezium, rear deltoid, and latissimus muscles by doing other exercises that do not place the ligaments at risk of injury. These exercises include shrugs for the trapezium, rear extensions with dumbbells or a straight bar for the posterior deltoid, and upright rows or cable rows for the latissimus muscles.

Although any athlete can be injured while lifting weights, weightlifters can prevent many injuries by using proper positioning and lifting techniques and by using the right exercise to strengthen a specific muscle group.
I was able to find pics of proper and improper form.

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Old 07-27-2005, 09:57 AM   #2
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Is it a bad thing to have to put weights under your heels when you squat?
 
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:22 AM   #3
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Its better to increase ankle flexibility to the point where you dont need them.
 
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:00 AM   #4
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yeah my back gets fucked from squats if I'm not careful. But they're the best exercise for legs imo.
 
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:13 AM   #5
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Is it a bad thing to have to put weights under your heels when you squat?
Not really but i do feel that your goal should be to progress far enough so that they are no longer needed. The main reason being that it could throw your balance off causing you to have bad form.
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:56 PM   #6
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Not really but i do feel that your goal should be to progress far enough so that they are no longer needed. The main reason being that it could throw your balance off causing you to have bad form.

actually it is suggested to do this. when u put it under ur heels, it gives proper form where ur lower back is aligned with ur shoulders and with ur knees. this prevents injury of the lower back and knees.
 
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:03 PM   #7
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Another thing you can do if you need a to bring up your heel when you squat is to invest in a pair of olympic lifting shoes. http://www.qwa.org/products/content.asp

These also help with cleans, snatch, jerk, etc, but also help with squat if ankle flexibility is an issue.
 
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:52 PM   #8
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Another thing you can do if you need a to bring up your heel when you squat is to invest in a pair of olympic lifting shoes. http://www.qwa.org/products/content.asp

These also help with cleans, snatch, jerk, etc, but also help with squat if ankle flexibility is an issue.

personally it would be more cost effective to just take two 10lbs plate and put them on the floor and when u back down from the rack make sure ur heel is on top of them. i personally dont use this technique unless my schedule happens to be a back day before a leg day. cuz my lower back would be killing from the deadlifts.
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:06 AM   #9
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These are more for overall olympic lifting. I had two strength coaches, one advocated them, one didnt. I dont use them anymore either, just took a little time to get ankle flexibility up. That being said, If I was still olympic lifitng a lot, there are a godsend when you are in the hole with a heavy snatch or clean.
 
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:49 AM   #10
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yes granted to u on that fact. it definately would reduce the chances of injury as well.
 
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:24 PM   #11
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weight belt/ knee raps
 
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Old 01-12-2006, 08:58 PM   #12
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That pick is such a bad example of good form.

You should hold the bar narrower (like a normal bench press width) so that you have to pull your shoulders back and not allow your back to round. Your knees should track over your feet i.e. feet pointing the direction of your knee bend. Yes you shouldn't round your back but you should also try to limit the amount of forward lean. Power lifters teach you to squat back and use your glutes and hammys more to take more load off the lower back. And feet don't have to be shoulder width.

Though good points on depth. If you only make it to a 90 degree bend in the knee and change direction (from down to up) you put tremendous force on your knee ligaments.
 
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Old 07-04-2006, 08:56 AM   #13
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I seem to have a weak back I have had problems with it since I hurt it skating when I was about 14, do you think that a weight belt would really help to stop injurys
 
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Old 07-04-2006, 07:48 PM   #14
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I seem to have a weak back I have had problems with it since I hurt it skating when I was about 14, do you think that a weight belt would really help to stop injurys
no. do hypers, good mornings, SLDL and deadlifts. obviously you can't do all these, but pic 2 of them to work with. a belt would only hide the pain and give your body extra support which will only hurt you in the end since you don't constantly wear a belt 24/7. be careful with good mornings if you decide to do those. if done properly their great but if done incorrect it's a lower back injury waiting to happen.