what is the best fat burner

big j taco · 07-20-2007, 01:02 PM

i was thinking about taking hydroxycut hardcore. what do you guys think?

Beefcake · 07-20-2007, 07:10 PM

Don't go with Hydroxycut, because as soon as you stop taking it, you'll feel like shit. Go with Lipo 6 or Hot Rox depending on how much weight you need to lose. Lipo for a little gradually but Hot Rox lose a lot, little by little.

MetalMX · 08-18-2007, 01:18 PM

Take Hydroycut and all the other fat burners you buy at GNC or wherever and burn em coz thats as useful as they'll get. Buy yourself some clenbuterol for the same price except being about 100 TIMES!!! more effective, it raises your body temperature by 1 degree causing you to raise your metabolism by about 5% and burn fat. Its also anti-catabolic on a calorie restricted diet and anabolic for about for the first 18 you use it. Your strength will increase.

Mygeeto · 08-19-2007, 08:08 AM

musclemaniac uk · 08-26-2007, 09:33 AM

don't use clenbuterol, it can seriously mess up ure thyroid gland permanently, and when the thyroid gland can no longer secrete thyroxin properly, you get fat! it's a banned substance for a reason! rather do cardio 3-5 times per week, monitor your calories carefully and buy a thermogenic like hydroxycut, but it's up to you.

**chrispghmuscle** · 08-26-2007, 09:43 AM

Ummm best fat burner is, lower your caloric intake by 250 up to 500 calories and do cardo 4 to 5 times a week.

What are your stats, height / weight are you monitoring your food intake so you can subtract the 250 - 500 calories in your diet. If you are then loosing with fat most likely wont be an issue. Don't be sedentary, ( meaning dont sit down and expect the fat to fall off on it's own).. Keep moving.

Chris

**lil_big_junior** · 08-26-2007, 11:19 AM

stay away from clenbuterol...metalmx, bro that's bad advice...
DIET is everything, cut your carbs down to a minimum, up protein intake & take BCAAs, & some sort of test booster like ZMA to help keep your mass gains. do cardio everyday whilst sticking to a decent fat burner like lipo 6X...

MetalMX · 08-26-2007, 09:09 PM

thanks for your advice lil big junior but i don't need it. I follow a flawless diet. My protein intake is high, ive dropped my carbs and increased omega 3's but still i tend to lose muscle. With the clenbuterol i tend to hold on to a lot muscle and even gain so its much better for me

**lil_big_junior** · 08-26-2007, 11:21 PM

i was talking to the big j taco bro...but it's cool...whatever works for you

you'll lose size on a cut anyhow, but however metalmx, try taking some bcaa & a natty test booster like ZMA, trib or formadrol to help keep your gains a little bit more...if you don't need advice, you wouldn't be here...just sharing my knowledge & experience the best i can.

all i suggest is you read up on clen, before you start posting about it, plus you're only 18 & you're on it, which is bad enough...
not trying to butt heads mate, just my 2cents

MetalMX · 08-27-2007, 08:23 AM

Thanks for the advice lil big J, appreciate it. In all honesty i do need advice about things, i possess a lot of knowledge about training and nutrition etc but it never hurts to know a bit more. Such as my diet is good in terms of the foods i eat but not in the quanities i cant count calories etc for meals and macros i dont have time it might be the thing thats holding back some of my progress any suggestions?

**lil_big_junior** · 08-27-2007, 10:58 AM

plan your meals a week before hand mate...on a monday, i write down all the things i need for the following week, start doing it now, practise makes perminant...nothing is perfect, but atleast you'll know what you're doing in the long run.
my only advice to you is get of the clen, at 18 you really don't need it, unless you're extremly obese, which i doubt is the case...you'd be better off with an ECA stack, less sides...or opt for a more natural\legal burner like leviathan, or lipo 6X...

MetalMX · 08-28-2007, 05:52 AM

The thing is i wouldnt be on the clen anyway but nothing else has worked this is the only thing that has so far. I do have a tendency to overeat as i was about 130kgs pretty overweight then went all the way down to 75kg in 6-7 months yer i know not good this was 2 years ago then i gained about 15kgs mostly fat and was 90kgs not looking very good. Then in february this year i started bodybuilding and got my weight to about 108-110kg where i am now and lost bodyfat as well so my body has been through a wreck in a sense