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Old 10-02-2008, 04:57 PM   #1
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I'm getting my soon to be 16 year old brother into weight training now for athletic performance. The kids never lifted a weight in his life. He barely weights 150 and is 5'10", very skinny. He can bench 135 1 time and do about 8 pullups which shows he's pretty weak uptop. He plays hockey and has good leg strength from playing and doing off ice training (plyos).

Long story short when I was testing him just to see around how much weight he should be training with for each body part he squated 365 5 times easily with no problems, good technique and all. Thats quite a bit of weight for someone who never lifted. My question is should he be squating that much weight or should he let the rest of his upper body catch up with his leg strength so he doesnt hurt his back. Apparently his cores pretty strong to to hold that much up for how skinny he is... Thanks
 
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:35 PM   #2
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Let him catch up pound down the calories.
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Old 10-02-2008, 11:40 PM   #3
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have him do what he can and maintain his legs, but keep pounding down the cals like freak said and get his upper body to match.

he's got trey brewer syndrome
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:01 AM   #4
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If its for atheletic performance reasons and hes able to perform the exercise without any issues and relatively comfortable doing so, i dont see why you would want to hault his progress with his legs. If its for appearance reasons then thats diffrent.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:11 PM   #5
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Thanks guys for all the help, I appreciate it....I'll start havin him eat a ton.
 
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:33 AM   #6
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spoet s[ecific abilitis will differ with the sport. i think its your bro's descision, on wether he wants to be better at his sport, or hav size and strength in his upper body which can match his legs. as you said, he can squat in good form, so there is no problem whith that. he doesnt need an upper body stronger than his is already to save his back if he has good form. heck, i can relate with him, apart from the gym, the only exercise i do is the 2-3 hr walk every day. i still concentrate on mya squats and leg presses.
 
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:55 PM   #7
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365 5 reps at 16 holy **** I'm lifting and I'm hoping to be able to do that at that age... hoping.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:17 PM   #8
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That is seriously.. seriously... heavy for a 16yr old.

Doesn't sound quite right that he cant lift much at all on his upperbody though considering he is Brolic on his legs... are you sure he doesnt go and train his legs secretly in the middle of the night for the last few years??
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:26 PM   #9
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If he is concerned about hockey and athletic performance, train his legs...dont stop.

If your bodybuilding, maintain the legs and train his upperbody.

However, I am skeptical of how good his form is/how far he is actually lowering himself. If he is only 150 lbs and squats 365 lbs without ever stepping in a gym...he is either A) genetic freak B) doing it wrong. I tend to think the latter.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:41 PM   #10
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Yeah I saw kids in the school weight room going down oh I'd say 5 inches. I told the kid you gotta do parellal or lower and yeha like said above all the way down or it doesn't count.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:48 PM   #11
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Agreed Mike. I know for a fact that many high schoolers don't do proper form on squats. I can think of many teammates in HS that would load up the bar and go a few inches. It not only doesn't recruit the same muscle fibers, it increases your risk for injury, especially in your knees.

I read an article/someone wrote on here a long time ago that it is actually healthier to go ass to the grass, even more than parallel because of the stress it creates on your knees when you reverse before you do a full range of motion. They actually equated the ease on your knees when you do a full range of motion (ass to the ground) to a fetal position you are curled up inside the womb. haha I don't know how true that is, but the stress part is true.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:51 PM   #12
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I'd have to se proof to fully believe that womb thing. But I believe the FROM part. Good info.
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