[patdiddy]

is there any supplements other than protien powder, and creatine that help you gain good quality muscle?

[hicktown]

if your not getting enough protein from foods then a pro powder is a great way to get extra grams. i personally like optimum nutrition. the price is very reasonable and it tastes great too. creatine is a must.

[front_row]

Originally Posted by hicktown

if your not getting enough protein from foods then a pro powder is a great way to get extra grams. i personally like optimum nutrition. the price is very reasonable and it tastes great too. creatine is a must.

I agree. And a multivitamin. Don't spend the extra money on isolate, just stick with a basic whey complex.

[hypocrisy86]

For joints take Osteo-bi-flex Advanced and Multi vitamins.

[patdiddy]

well i guess its my fault for not saying this earlier but i allready know about protien consumtion and the creatine and am currentlly taking a multivitamin.....
soon i will also be taking fish oil tablets and maybe even some flaxseed oil aswell.
i want to know if there are any other supplements that can be taken to promote good muscle gains.

thanks alot for everyone lending there ear and giving me there opinions........
if you all have anymore knowledge to give my ears are wide open...... thanks guys......

[JaKKd up]

I haven't personally tried them but I read N0 products like SuperPump 250 and N0 Xplode were good. I might give em a try in a week or so.

[philosopher]

NO explode... but nothing can beat creatine imo

[Project Evo]

This is quite interesting. As a beginner, when should I begin to to take a look at supplements? At the moment, I'm trying to loose weight but build muscle mass at the same time. It seems to be working fine for at the moment, I've noticed a massive difference to my physique after just 3 months, so I seem to be getting all I need from food, but will it be enough?

[front_row]

Timing is always important with nutrition too. You have about a half hour post-workout to refuel with some simple carbs or easily digested protein like a shake. Before I'd blown out my knee at rugby, I liked to do about 30 minutes of cardio after weights, so I'd add half a scoop of whey complex powder to a litre (a quart) of water to drink during lifting. That pushed the window of opportunity back far enough to allow the cardio, since I already had the protein in my system.

[front_row]

I find food alone is enough, but its way too inconvenient. I like shakes for simplicity right after a workout and for extra meals. I used to keep a bucket in the trunk of my car and another bucket behind the counter at the gym, never miss a meal.