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Old 01-30-2006, 03:10 PM   #1
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Another theory which may or may not sit well with current beliefs. I guess everyone always has a different opinion that they want to push on people! Here's another one!

We’re living in an era which may go down in history as the Dietary Dark Ages.

Even though more people today are on a diet than ever before, the numbers of the overweight, of the clinically obese, of the diabetic and of those suffering from cardiovascular disease, are at an all time high.

Ironically, the darkest days in human diet history have seen the greatest-ever explosion of “health” products—in particular the all-pervasive low-carb offerings.

Low-carb products appeal to low-carb believers who desperately try to minimize carb consumption, assuming that carbs are the culprit for fat gain. Yet, in spite of the widely advertised low-carb diet and the massive consumption of low-carb products, most low-carb dieters fail to maintain a lean body.

Statistically, in the long run a low-carb dieter will most likely suffer from a fat gain rebound, gaining more weight then they initially lost. There are two major reasons for the failure of low-carb products to ensure longterm fat loss.

One: Low-carb diets adversely affect the human capacity to generate energy. build tissue and maintain optimum health (See diet fallacy # 5).

Two: Low-carb products are often made with low-grade carb substitutes, chemical additives, artificial sweeteners, sugar alcohol and often hydrogenated oil.

Low-carb products, in particular protein bars, typically have a funky aftertaste—not to mention severe adverse side effects such as indigestion, bloating and nausea.

Due to their often-inferior nutritional composition and high chemical content, low-carb products may increase the overall metabolic stress on the liver. That may lead to the accumulation of metabolites such as coenzyme A and acetate as well as estrogen chemicals in the liver, which causes insulin resistance and accumulation of stubborn fat and abdominal fat, respectively.

Furthermore, for many overweight people who suffer from Dismetabolic-Syndrome, following a rigid low-carb/high fat diet may be the worst thing they can do.

Researchers at Wallenberg lab, Lund University, Malmo, Sweden recently published recently an assay stating that individuals who suffer from Dismetabolic-Syndrome generally have the typical symptoms such as obesity / abdominal obesity as well as dislipidemia - impaired fat metabolism with a high level of serum lipids.

For that matter, any application of uncontrolled high fat/low-carb diet in these cases may unfortunately accelerate the damage by increasing the levels of serum lipids, which makes patients more insulin resistant and prone to gain more fat, in particular abdominal fat.

In conclusion:

Don’t attempt to fool your body, stay away from products loaded with chemicals or cheap carb substitutes. If you suffer from abdominal obesity or dislipideimia, high fat/low-carb products could be your worst choice.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:36 PM   #2
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Banshee and I have had this discussion. We both said the low carb diet was going to die when instead of eating a low carb diet (IE, meats, veggies, some fruit) People would remainin the same dietary rut and just buy low carb versions of what they already eat.
 
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Old 01-31-2006, 06:38 AM   #3
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good info bro...
 
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Old 01-31-2006, 12:23 PM   #4
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Banshee and I have had this discussion. We both said the low carb diet was going to die when instead of eating a low carb diet (IE, meats, veggies, some fruit) People would remainin the same dietary rut and just buy low carb versions of what they already eat.
I was just reading today about low-fat products which are sold as "dieteary aids" and all they do is subsititue the fat with extra sugars which are no better cos they are higher carbs & sugar carbs at that. To be honest, I've always thought that lowering carbs would help, but then it's not about eating a balanced diet then though is it.
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:37 AM   #5
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Found this which I thought could add extra info to the topic.

We felt we must explain this particular version of dieting in more detail because it is quite different any of the other you have seen. It is called The Know How and was created by Don Lemmon.

People have gotten the idea that you must recieve all your energy and glycogen and glucose supplied from carbohydrates for the body to survive. This isnt true as the body turns everything you eat eventually into a sugar and ultimately an alochol. What people really don't understand is that it's a misconception that you need to eliminate carbs to burn fat. Most low carbohydrate ketogenic diets are classified as hazardous by most physicians, but when used under control, ketosis is a great fat-loss tool.

Glucose enters the body, whether from carbs, proteins or fats, and insulin is secreted by the pancreas to utilize it, or store it. If you eat too much or the food didnt digest properly, glucose cannot be stored as glycogen as there is only so much room for it to be stored and it is then made into triglycerides (and stored as bodyfat). This is with any food. When eventually it is needed for energy, stored glycogen is then converted back into glucose and used up directly by a cell or transported through the bloodstream to other cells for further conversion and use. But gylcogen, again, is of limited supply. It only lasts you about 20 to 30 minutes during intense exercise. After that, the body burns fat as it's energy source. But soon after that, depending on your diet, the body next begins burning muscle as a fuel. This is why your workouts need to be shorter. You must stay away from losing muscle during exerise. A loss of muscle shuts everything else down and to save it, the body funnels it into the fat cells. Making you fat.

But when fat makes up a good bulk of your diet, you won't have to use all your glycogen or glucose thats available for energy anymore. Most of your energy will come from the breakdown of free fatty acids out of the diet or from the fat stored on your body which your insides now believe they can let go of. The body will not store fat if it recieves fat. When fat is eaten, the enzymes that break it down are greedy guys. They go after body fat in a sense too. This leaves fatty acids free floating and ready for energy use therefore sparing glycogen.

Basically, a diet higher in fat while still allowing carbohydrates yet keeping specific foods separate from one another to ensure digestion, activates the lipolytic (fat burning) enzymes in your body and decreases the activity of the lipogenic (fat producing) enzymes. Mixing foods incorrectly or eating too much at a time is what leads to increased storage of body fat and a decrease in the amount of stored fat that can be burned.

When you're burning fat as a primary fuel instead of using glycogen or breaking down precious protein, you'll get to savor every last nutrient to its fullest extent and become much healthier too. THIS IS HOW WE WERE CREATED TO FUNCTION. And THIS IS the way the body works. Despite what you have been told, you need all of your carbs, fats and proteins daily in order to recieve ALL of the essential amino and fatty acids, vitamins and minerals my friend. Just not all in the same basket.

Another important by-product of this diet (keeping fats and proteins together and carbohydrates at separate meals) is that fat is a protector of protein. When you're utilizing carbs as your main source of energy, the body will take muscle protein to form it into glucose (gluconeogenesis) for energy once carbs are exhausted. This is why you must alternate your meals with this Know How. Carbohydrate meal followed THEN by a protein and fat meal. This is also why anabolic activity (muscle growth) can or cannot take place. You'll be sitting there, burning fat and growing all the while, OR maybe not if you don't do as Don Lemmon tells you.

Many people suspect that they'll experience a loss of energy on this diet because the body isn't getting as much glucose from carbs anymore but, this just isn't true. It gets its glucose from the fats. There's no lack of energy. The greatest thing about this diet is that you can FINALLY eat whatever you want. You can eat lots of fat and protein and carbs or whatever you heart desires. I went absolutely nuts. I had pizza, fast food, and all kinds of wonderful stuff like that. It's all about learning what could and could not be eaten together. There is minor preparation with this thing too. Takes no extra time at all.

Is this a long term diet? Yes. You continue your original way of eating, just keeping some foods at separate meals. No biggie. It's NOT combining. It's separation. I endorse it because I use it and it works, but I don't work for the company. I am busy enough as an attorney. This diet was so just revolutionary to me, and for those I recommended it to, I decided to share it. It made that much of a difference. Will you be hungrier? At first. Will your strength decrease? NOPE. Will you lose muscle? Only if you eat too little. You can eat more here. Will I feel bloated? The first few days, yes. Then everything MAGICAL happens.

If you want more facts, there are a lot more intricate details of the diet that you simply have to read for yourself. In fact without the manual you could be left in the dark about a lot of important info that will guarantee your success on this diet. Society has us brainwashed into thinking the simplest of things are ok and they are not. If you try it on you own I simply can not guarantee you will see the results that you should. The program is based upon simple scientific fact, contains sample starter diets, plans for physique contests or the like, and more on how to increase body weight by 10% and still decrease bodyfat in under 6 weeks. This system is for everyone though. The deviations lie in your goals. But you all eat. The difference in a ten pound weight gain or loss and a hundred pounds is simply time. Not diet. The diet is the same. Don lays out what to eat, how much, and when to stop. Due to amount of information Lemmon put in his book I can only summarize it here.

The Know How is still very different. It will help you lose fat, and trick the metabolism into anabolic growth like the others promise yet it is a modified version of NOTHING. It is something stumbled upon, not stolen as many diets that were once mainstream and are now touted in the bodybuilding industry are. It is a bit similar to everything but then again not really. It contains a little of everything that works and none of what was contained in the others that caused them to fail. He also explains how to train to reach your goals effectively.

This diet claims to help you lose all the fat you want without losing any muscle and you only have to train 3 times for a total of about 2 hours per week. Increasing aerobics isnt the solution. It doesnt matter how popular the machines fro riding and rowing are. Increasing aerobics causes just as much muscle loss as calorie restriction. Have faith. It works. It doesnt matter if you understand why. Do exactly as he says, and it ends up working every time.

Can we cheat? The reason some diets advocate eating more or anything you like or extra carbs on weekends is because this is absolutely necessary due to the loss of muscle tissue and glycogen you suffered during the weekdays. Glycogen supercompensation will NOT ALWAYS cause a "cellular kinetic expansion" that is claimed to be just like steroids and growth hormone when you "load up" on weekends. In fact, how many of you have tried this only to get fat again? Or then have heard the author excuse himself by saying it's alright to gain a little fat this way cause it increases your hormonal production or makes it easier to lose later? LATER? Oh Lord! What about NOW? Listen, with The Know How, there is no cycling, no goofy schedules, no yo-yoing, no mumbo jumbo to convince you it's unique. The Know How just WORKS.

What kind of fat does he suggest you eat? Almost all fat -- saturated or not, essential or not -- will work in the Know How Diet. Energy-wise, it doesn't matter. You could use MCTs, for that matter, but they're are not as much fun as an additional serving of oily fish, walnuts or avocado. You can get fats from all over: fish, beef, whole eggs, flax, olive or safflower oil, bacon, sausage, pork, and cheese. Protein foods usually contain fats in them. It's nature. Even peanut butter contains protein and fat combined. Basically you want to consume enough fat but remember NO ADDED CARBS at those meals. That means no bread, cereal, fruit, pasta, milk, sugar, the list goes on and on. That means your carb meal selections are endless too! Every single day you get to eat real food just as long as you are careful not to over consume. The secret to this is in the book. It's not calorie reduction either. There is no depletion. No dieting down. No suffering. Just continued progress. Continued progress by saving your muscle. Because protein has less usable energy than fat, the body will always use the fat which accompanies it and refuse to strip down stored muscle to scavenge energy-producing amino acids. Glutamine will be saved, then so will the branched-chain amino acids, and even alanine. That is if you'll eat the stuff.
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Old 02-09-2006, 10:19 AM   #6
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thx man .. nice post
 
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Banshee and I have had this discussion. We both said the low carb diet was going to die when instead of eating a low carb diet (IE, meats, veggies, some fruit) People would remainin the same dietary rut and just buy low carb versions of what they already eat.
Its so true :nanahorse
 
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:02 PM   #8
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This post intrigues me. I dont know if its been mentioned though i think the predominant reason low carb diets dont work is because people take in too many carbs! zero carbs is impossible so u really have to count everything and for most people more then 40 total carbs will be enough to take them out of fat burning mode so any fruit consumption is really ridiculous. the other pitfall is people dont eat enough fat.

My experience is limited. I was on less then 20 grams of carbs a day for 5 days and my ketones levels were negative. Which is supposed to show whether im in fat metabolic mode. I have no doubt this diet works though as long as you count carbs. My girlfriend saw amazing results from it. A heightened mental sense as well and her training was unaffected. she actually saw strength gains after almost a month on the diet!

but its no good for most athletes lol!
 
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