[DEADn]

I bought some of this stuff the last week of 2005 and did not use it until New Year's Eve when I began my workouts again. Granted that as of this post I have been on it 3 days here is my experience after doing legs, back and shoulders.

NOXplode, I started out with 1 scoop for 2 days. I did'nt feel or sense anything in my system although it tasted alot better then other supps. Tonight I did 2 scoops to see what would happen I waited near 45 min before my workout. I sat on the couch during that time. I actually felt sleepy. I did my workout but I felt not fire within to just bust it out. It was more my own will.

With Cellmass it might be harder to tell. I don't feel bloated and it might be too early to tell if this stuff is working.

For the moment I am not too impressed with this stuff but it is still early. I got my stuff for $31 each. with $6 SH.

I do have some creatine mono by precision engineered. Great deal on it. 400g for like $8 with another can for free. I just hate loading it for a week and this is why I am trying the ester creatine stuff to see if it makes a difference. I even thought about the vitargo stuff just to see what happens.

What I stick with at the moment is ON whey protein, ester C and vita E along with Super B complex. After that I experiment with supps and if I find something that seems to work I go with it.

Anyway, this may be early with my experience with the BSN stuff but this is where I am. Now, I did feel sore after the first 2 days but it was more of a subtle soreness and for the moment I attribute that to the supplements.
Other than that I eat tuna, protein shakes and some chicken.

John

[Diesel]

you do not have to load any type of creatine......try the 'search' feature and you will see how we all feel about BSN & Muscle-Tech for that matter:)

[Flex]

Let me get this straight, you are judging the products after three days of use? No-xplode is a combination of creatine monohydrate and nitric oxide (from my understanding). Both of these products take weeks before you will notice results. Save your money and spend it on better brands than BSN.

You are right, that is a great price on creatine monohydrate. The only problem is Precision Engineered really isn't effective.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Flex

Let me get this straight, you are judging the products after three days of use? No-xplode is a combination of creatine monohydrate and nitric oxide (from my understanding). Both of these products take weeks before you will notice results. Save your money and spend it on better brands than BSN.

You are right, that is a great price on creatine monohydrate. The only problem is Precision Engineered really isn't effective.

NO-Explode also claims to help you focus and get physced up for workouts and im sure it does

[Flex]

Originally Posted by Diesel

NO-Explode also claims to help you focus and get physced up for workouts and im sure it does

I don't know No-xplode's exact ingredients, but I'm almost positive that's from the caffiene they add which can be dangerous in the long term.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Flex

I don't know No-xplode's exact ingredients, but I'm almost positive that's from the caffiene they add which can be dangerous in the long term.

Calories: 36
-Calories From Fat: 0
Total Fat: 0g
-Saturated Fat: 0g
Cholesterol: 0mg
Sodium: 150mg
Potassium: 75mg
Total Carbohydrates: 9g
-Sugars: 0g
Protein: 0g
Vitamin B6: 25mg
-(Pyridoxine HCL)
Vitamin B12: 120mcg
-(Cyanocobalamine)
Folic Acid: 400mcg
Magnesium: 360mg
Phosphorus: 500mg
Calcium: 75mg

NO-Xplode Proprietary Blend: 20,500mg
(NO-Xplode Contains a patent pending nutrient suspension matrix & Efforsorb Delivery System)

NO Meta-Fusion (patent pending)
(L-arginine AKG, Citral-M (citrulline malate), L-citrulline AKG, L-histidine AKG, RC-NOS (rutacarpine 95%), gynostemma pentaphyllum (95% gypenosides), NAD (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide)

Muscle Volumizing Creatine Matrix (patent pending)
2CM (dicreatine malate), Betapure (trimethylglycine), Glycovol (glycocyamine), GuaniPro (guanidino proplonic acid), Cinnulin PF (aqueous cinnamon extract), keto-isocaproate potassium

Ener-Tropic Xplosion (patent pending)
L-tyrosine, taurine, Endurlac (glucuronolactone), l-tyrosine AKG, methylxanthines (caffeine), MCT's (medium chain triglycerides), vinpocetine 99%, vincamine 99%, vinburnine 99%

Phospho-Electrolyte Replacer
Calcium phosphate, magnesium oxide, potassium phosphate, sodium phosphate

Glycerol Hydrating Polymers
Potassium glycerophosphate, magnesium glycerophosphate, glycerola stearate

Other Ingredients: Maltodextrine, citric acid, sodium bicarbonate, lemon juice powder, malic acid, potassium citrate, natural and artificial flavors, aspartame, acesulfame potassium, FD&C Red 40, FD&C Blue 1.



found this and never heard of most of it...

[DEADn]

The only reason I am making this post early about this subject is because I have read a number of cases where those who have taken, especially the NO xplode said they feel it almost immediately upon ingesting it.

For my own experience, and yes it is only a few days, I dont feel anything. I just get a good tasting berry flavor out of it. It amazes me that there is no sugar in this stuff. I will continue to push this out until it my jars are done and see what happens.

I took NOxplode about an hour ago. I am sitting on the couch typing this (Ihave msntv) and it is ironic. I really feel like taking a cat nap but I am not.

Oh, and about the precision engineered stuff, Yeah, after I got it I wonder about it because of the price and the fact that it isnt too widely known.

John

[billy d]

i try not to sit on the couch before i goto the gym, or sit around anywhere..i start trying preparing for my workout like an hour before..just keep myself busy, thinking about the workout a head of me, what i want to do, how i want to do it..what i want to eat afterwords..and just generally keep myself busy around the house...i need to really psych myself up before the gym to get my focus right and have a good workout..otherwise it just ends upo fugazi..thats just me tho..


i clearly get the point that no one here likes muscletech or bsn..or probably any major brand for that matter. I don't blame you either, their advertising is rediculous..and the magazines that have their ads are ridiculous..but what exactly is so bad about their actual products? I'm just looking for the best product i can get, so any help from u guys is welcome..and i'm willing to try anything lol.

Is it u guys just take the supplements in their most basic form, without all the extra shit these guys throw in there? I just want to know what is so bad about this stuff and what is so good about what you guys use?

Thanks fellas..

*****i do already take the vitamins(not about to list them all), BCAA's, ya know all the essentials...but I'm only so curious about this crap cause i'm quitting the roid game for awhile and am interested in the claims of these products..

[Flex]

Originally Posted by DEADn

It amazes me that there is no sugar in this stuff.

Because it includes aspartame.

Possible side effects include:

Eye
blindness in one or both eyes
decreased vision and/or other eye problems such as: blurring, bright flashes, squiggly lines, tunnel vision, decreased night vision
pain in one or both eyes
decreased tears
trouble with contact lenses
bulging eyes

Ear
tinnitus - ringing or buzzing sound
severe intolerance of noise
marked hearing impairment

Neurologic
epileptic seizures
headaches, migraines and some severe
dizziness, unsteadiness, both
confusion, memory loss, both
severe drowsiness and sleepiness
paresthesia or numbness of the limbs
severe slurring of speech
severe hyperactivity and restless legs
atypical facial pain
severe tremors

Psychological/Psychiatric
severe depression
irritability
aggression
anxiety
personality changes
insomnia
phobias

Chest
palpitations, tachycardia
shortness of breath
recent high blood pressure

Gastrointestinal
nausea
diarrhea, sometimes with blood in stools
abdominal pain
pain when swallowing

Skin and Allergies
itching without a rash
lip and mouth reactions
hives
aggravated respiratory allergies such as asthma

Endocrine and Metabolic
loss of control of diabetes
menstrual changes
marked thinning or loss of hair
marked weight loss
gradual weight gain
aggravated low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)
severe PMS

Other
frequency of voiding and burning during urination
excessive thirst, fluid retention, leg swelling, and bloating
increased susceptibility to infection

Additional Symptoms of Aspartame Toxicity include the most critical symptoms of all
death
irreversible brain damage
birth defects, including mental retardation
peptic ulcers
aspartame addiction and increased craving for sweets
hyperactivity in children
severe depression
aggressive behavior
suicidal tendencies

Aspartame may trigger, mimic, or cause the following illnesses:
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Epstein-Barr
Post-Polio Syndrome
Lyme Disease
Grave’s Disease
Meniere’s Disease
Alzheimer’s Disease
ALS
Epilepsy
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
EMS
Hypothyroidism
Mercury sensitivity from Amalgam fillings
Fibromyalgia
Lupus
non-Hodgkins
Lymphoma
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)

[billy d]

shit, that about sums it up huh? lol thanks

[Flex]

Originally Posted by billy d

but what exactly is so bad about their actual products?

Some of their products arn't even really bad. For example, Cell-Tech is a solid product to take PWO. But what is the point of paying 60+ dollars on a 7 lb jug when you can make it yourself for less than half the price.

Most of their stuff (especially the newer products) are garbage and have no scientific studies on em. Now if you enjoy being a gineau pig and hate money, knock yourself out.

[billy d]

Originally Posted by Flex

Most of their stuff (especially the newer products) are garbage and have no scientific studies on em. Now if you enjoy being a gineau pig and hate money, knock yourself out.

lmao..thanks for advice bro..i definately don't hate money, but i can't say that hate being a gineau pig..