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Old 12-28-2005, 12:00 AM   #1
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Almost everyone agrees that water is good for you and that the biggest problem with water intake is that you don’t drink enough. Learn why and find out the truth...


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By: Mauro Di Pasquale

Almost everyone agrees that water is good for you and that the biggest problem with water intake is that you don't drink enough. We have all had it drummed into us that we need to drink at least eight glasses of water a day. That it's important to drink water before and during exercise.

That coffee and tea don't count because caffeine can dehydrate our bodies. And that you can't trust your thirst as an accurate measure of when you need water since if you're thirsty you're already dehydrated. Well think again. According to a recent review in the Journal of Physiology, most of these accepted truths seem to be myths.

This review looked at the scientific evidence of the 8*8 mantra – drinking at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day, and found that there really was none.

The claimed benefits of taking in that much water each day, including benefits for weight loss, bowels, fatigue, arthritis, mental alertness and headaches, losing weight, preventing constipation, are also mostly unsubstantiated.

Other Water Myths That Are Debunked In This Article Include:


By the time a person is thirsty that person is already dehydrated. This in fact isn't true and the best measure of how much water to drink is your thirst.

Dark urine means dehydration. Again that's not strictly true either as there are many other factors that can contribute to dark urine.

Caffeinated beverages dehydrate us. As you'd expect much of this is also unsubstantiated. In fact, contrary to popular opinion, a recent study has found that coffee, tea and sodas are hydrating for people used to caffeine and thus should count toward their daily fluid total.
While this review focuses on the validity of the various water myths, no one seriously disputes that getting enough water is crucial. However, fears of dehydration and the constant barrage telling us we don't drink enough water, has led to a mistaken belief that the safe thing to do is to drink as much and as often as possible. But drinking too much water can be hazardous to your health.


Too Much Water?


The reason why over hydrating can be dangerous is that when we consume large amounts of water when exercising, blood plasma (the liquid part of blood) increases, while the sodium concentration in the body fluids decreases, both as a result of the dilution by the water but also because sodium is lost by sweating.

Hyponatremia, or low blood sodium, generally happens after drinking too much plain water and can lead to adverse effects and tissue damage, and interfere with brain, heart, and muscle function.

Early symptoms can be difficult to spot and include:


Confusion
Nausea
Fatigue
Muscle cramps
Weakness
More severe symptoms can include vomiting, muscle twitching, delirium, seizures, coma and death.

A new review of three deaths of US military recruits highlights the dangers of drinking too much water. Like in sports, the military has traditionally focused on dangers of not drinking enough, especially under conditions often associated with exercise and hot conditions. However, getting overzealous over the need to drink large amounts of water and over-hydrating can have deadly consequences.


So How Much Water Should You Drink.


My recommendation is to drink when you're thirsty, and if you think you should be drinking more, don't overdo it. As far as drinking water in and around exercise, I've outlined a few simple guidelines that will make sure you're well hydrated without hitting any extremes.

Within an hour or so of training, drink a few glasses of water so you start well hydrated. While training you can drink a glass or so of water for every 15 minutes you train, especially if you're sweating it out.

However, even during times of heavy sweating don't take in more than a quart and half of water per hour. As far as how much your daily intake of water should be, The American College of Sports Medicine that 12 quarts is the maximum amount to drink in a 24-hour period.
 
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:16 AM   #2
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I bring gallon jugs of water around with me everywhere I go. People think I'm crazy, but I'm just thirsty!

 
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i drink a gallon a day...its 8 bottles a day and it really isn't that much.....you have one with each meal thats around 4-6 depending on the day and how many meals i get in..it really isn't hard to get plenty of water during the day
 
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hang on, shouldnt we be drinking more than the average person to accomadate for the high amount of protein in our diets??
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:25 AM   #5
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hang on, shouldnt we be drinking more than the average person to accomadate for the high amount of protein in our diets??
I think the doctor in this article is just pointing out the obvious! Drinking to much water can have a negative effect on the system. He's not saying don't drink water but you shouldn't be forcing it down if you are feeling ill from it. This goes the same with protein don't abuse your self with excessive intake. Your brain is more than capable of regulating these processes. Hence the thirst sensation, hunger or even cravings of types of foods that we get through out the day.
 
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yeah you're right about him just pointing out the obvious ie - too much of anything is bad for you. I guess it's just a matter of finding the right balance then
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one day .. i drank 15 liters of water in one day loool .. we have hot weather and i'm sweating a lot :)
 
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hahah wow 15 litres is heaps!!

i struggle to drink water full stop find it very difficult to drink it with mot of my meals and usually only have it with training...or at college as they have a drinking tower
point i dont drink as much as i should. if i were to drink the "reccommended' amount i would eah - feel sick form it
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If I hate one thing about the nutrition is that yesterdat say is good for you, today they say don't overdo, tomorrow they found out that it leads to cancer and about a month later it can cure cancer.
 
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the thing is 12qts is 4 gallons in 24hrs thats a lot of water in one day so even if you drink 2 gallons a day you should be fine.
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drinking when youre thirsty...? i thought if you did that you wre already too late because you already start to dehydrate.

too much is never good... except to much money of course :P
 
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8x8 too much, I dont buy the articles points at all. There are problems with excess water but none of the pros are high lighted prevention kidney stones gout boosting metabolism etc I try not to be thirsty and not too drink too much a straw colored urine is grand for me typically 3-4litres a day. The problem is taking too much at once. 2 litres should be a minimum and that is for a sedentary person
 
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hmm well I'm always thirsty it seems

I drink a gallon and a half at the moment :S
 
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i drink about 6-7 liter of water everyday but i think that ill drop it a lil......
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hey wut 12 quarts?????it says in the last line (The American College of Sports Medicine that 12 quarts is the maximum amount to drink in a 24-hour period.)....i mean like how many litrs of water is that???????...thx........
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drinking when youre thirsty...? i thought if you did that you wre already too late because you already start to dehydrate.

too much is never good... except to much money of course :P

Your right thats why u get thirsty bc your body is dehydrated and it needs water, therefore your body makes u thirsty so u feed it water.

As far as how much water i drink, i gotta be close to two gallons a day with what i drink and when i train easy.
 
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hey wut 12 quarts?????it says in the last line (The American College of Sports Medicine that 12 quarts is the maximum amount to drink in a 24-hour period.)....i mean like how many litrs of water is that???????...thx........

Fahad u almost 300 lbs, u should way past that i think 12 quarts is 3 liters. but uh u should be in the 2 gallon zone with me man eazy.

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Problem is every time you read something, the opposite pops up a week later.

HEALTH BENEFITS OF WATER
How 8 Glasses A Day Keeps Fat Away

Incredible as it may seem, water is quite possibly the single
most important catalyst in losing weight and keeping it off.
Although most of us take for granted, water may be the only
true "magic potion" for permanent weight loss.

Water supresses the appetite naturally and helps the body
metabolize stored fat. Studies have shown that a decrease in
water intake will cause fat deposits to increase, while an
increase in water intake can actually reduce fat deposits.

Here's why: The kidneys can't function properly without enough
water. When they don't work to capacity, some of their load is
dumped onto the liver. One of the liver's primary functions is
to metabolize stored fat into usable energy for the body. But
if the liver has to do some of the kidney's work it can't
operate at full throttle. As a result, it metabolizes less fat
more fat remains stored in the body and weight loss stops.

Drinking enough water is the best treatment for fluid retention.
When the body gets less water,it perceives this as a threat to
survival and begins to hold on to every drop. Water is stored
in extracellular spaces (outside the cell). This shows up as
swollen feet, legs and hands.

Diuretics offer a temporary solution at best. They force out
stored water along with some essential nutrients. Again, the
body perceives a treat and will replace the lost water at the
first opportunity. Thus, the condition quickly returns.

The best way to overcome the problem of water retention is to
give your body what it needs -- plenty of water. Only then will
stored water be released.

If you have a constant problem with water retention, excess salt
may be to blame. Your body will tolerate sodium only in a
certain concentration. The more salt you eat the more water
your system retains to dilute it.

But getting rid of unneeded salt is easy -- just drink more
water. As it's forced through the kidneys it takes away excess
sodium.

The overweight person needs more water than a thin one. Larger
people have larger metabolic loads. Since we know that water is
the key to fat metabolism, it follows that the over weight
person needs more water.

Water helps to maintain proper muscle tone by giving muscles
their natural ability to contract and by preventing dehydration.
It also helps to prevent the sagging skin that usually follows
weigh loss -- shrinking cells are buoyed by water which plumps
the skin and leaves it clear, healthy and resilient.

Water helps rid the body of waste. During weight loss, the body
has a lot more waste to get rid of -- all that metabolized fat
must be shed. Again, adequate water helps flush out the waste.

Water can help relieve constipation. When the body gets too
little water, it siphons what it needs from internal sources.
The colon is one primary source. Result? Constipation. But
when a person drinks enough water, normal bowel function usually
returns.

So far, we've discovered some remarkable truths about water and
weight loss:


* The body will not function properly without enough
water and can't metabolize stored fat efficiently.

* Retained water shows up as excess weight.

* To get rid of excess water you must drink more water.

* Drinking water is essential to weight loss.

How much water is enough? On the average, a person should drink
8-ounce glasses every day. That's about 2 quarts. However, the
overweight person needs one additional glass for every 25 pounds
of excess weight. The amount you drink also should be increased
if you exercise briskly or if the weather is hot and dry.

Water should preferably be cold. It's absorbed into the system
more quickly than warm water. And some evidence suggests that
drinking cold water can actually help burn calories. To
utilize water most efficiently during weight loss, follow this
schedule:

Morning: 1 quart consumed over a 30-minute period.

Noon: 1 quart consumed over a 30-minute period.

Evening: 1 quart consumed between five and six o'clock.

When the body gets the water it needs to function optimally,
it's fluids are perfectly balanced. When this happens, you have
reached the "breakthrough point." What does this mean?

* Endocrine-gland function improves.

* Fluid retention is alleviated as stored water is lost.

* More fat is used as fuel because the liver is free to
metabolize stored fat.

* Natural thirst returns.

* There is a loss of hunger almost over night.

If you stop drinking enough water, your body fluids will be
thrown out of balance again, and you may experience fluid
retention, unexplained weight gain and loss of thirst. To
remedy the situation you'll have to go back and force another
"breakthrough."
 
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Just drink when you're thirsty, that's what I do. And I always end up drinking what I need to drink.
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Quote:
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Fahad u almost 300 lbs, u should way past that i think 12 quarts is 3 liters. but uh u should be in the 2 gallon zone with me man eazy.

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hey how much is 1 gollon??is it lil over 3 liters or wut....and 8 glasses of water is like 2 liter of water, am i right????thx... ......
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I just drink when I think about it when I'm at work. Got a water cooler right behind me so just keep popping over when I think about it. No idea how much I'm drinking.
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As with all other stuff. Eating, Supplementation etc....Pay attention to your body. I drink 4-6 liters a day...I found you can add crystal light to help if your not a water fan...not many calories and tastes good too!!
 
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good post man. I drink about 6L a day. i sometimes feel dizzy etc. might drop the amount a little
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The thread is 2 years old man.
 
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it's just another man with another theory
somedays i drink 3 liters a day to 9 liters a day
what do you want me to drink instead?
evolution only involved water, f*ck we are mostly made of water.
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:26 PM   #30
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