[leadpunch]

Hi Guys,
I was wondering what are the benefiits of fish oil?I heard it is good for the brain and heart. But in what way. Any articles would be great. I am taking a few supplements right now and feel like I'm taking enough as it is-at the age of 30 .At this moment in a usual day I am drinking 3 iso-xp whey protein shakes,glucosamine for my joints,calcium pills, and xenadrine. I follow this routine from Mon- FRiday and the weekend I let me body rest from all the supplements.Your responses are gladly appreciated.

[Johnny Bravo]

Do a "google" on it.. I just searched on "Omega 3 6 9 benefits" and came up with 448.000 results :0)

[Ironslave]

Welcome, toss the Xenadrine its pretty useless, fish oils are THE number 1 supplement to take. They are essential fatty acids because your body cannot produce them naturally. They are amazing for heart health, joint inflamation, cognitive function, anti-cancer, preventing atherosclerosis, stroke, they make your skin look better, etc.

Look for a brand with a 1000 MG capsulite with the following:
180 mg EPA (eicosapentaenonic acid)
120 mg DHA (Docosahexaenoic acid)

[18inchGun]

healthy fats such as omega 3 increase testosterone as well, im not sure as to how, but i know they do

[Flex]

Originally Posted by hdogg345

Welcome, toss the Xenadrine its pretty useless, fish oils are THE number 1 supplement to take.

You think they are even more important than multivitamins?

[Ironslave]

Originally Posted by 18inchGun

healthy fats such as omega 3 increase testosterone as well, im not sure as to how, but i know they do

By increasing luteinizing hormone stimulated testosterone and an increase in binding capacity of gonadotropic receptor.

[Ironslave]

Originally Posted by Flex

You think they are even more important than multivitamins?

WAY better, multi vitamins are good, one of the things they are great for is getting nutrients that are hard to get in a normal diet, such as Vitamin D, but if you eat a well balanced diet with a lot of good vegetables you should be alright. But Fish Oils are amazing, you name a health benefit and chances are they do it. Everybody in the entire world should be taking these.

[leadpunch]

Hdogg thanks for the reply!are there specific fish oil brands you recommend?

[Ironslave]

Just as long as it has the 180mg EPA and 120mg DHA listed, there are tons of brands and places that should have it, Sam's club, drug stores, supermarkets etc. Id reccomend 2 with every meal except the after workout shake, and possibly up it to 3 per meal when cutting. A liquid fish oil product would also be great, unfourtunately i havent found one in my area, but if you find one then post the ingredients and ill take a look. All your other supps besides xenadrine are good, I take glucosamine also, if possible id look for some liquid glucosamine as it is absorbed much more efficiently. I get this at Sam's club also.

[maxxxedpumppimp]

I wouldn't recommend fish oil, I read in many different articles that if you consume enough of it it will reduce your sperm count to 0. No joke. It is also not an essesntial fatty acid. And the body doesn't produce it on it's own because obviously it's not essential. Another thing to avoid is any type of soy such as soy protein, soy has been found to actually promote estrogen formation in males. Now you dudes might think I'm a f*cking nut, but just think for one minute. Why is it that almost every food you can pick up at the food store has on the label "this product contains less than two percent of the following: blah, blah, blah, soy protein, blah, blah." Why would they put it in such small amounts into almost every food, because the goverment is doing an experiment on males, to see the adverse affects that they have with soy protein. No, don't think that I'm a nut, and don't be paranoid now, but I'm just saying be careful with what you eat and put into your body. I also don't recommend any supplements at all. Just vitamins, healthy food, hard work, a small amount of gear used wisely, and sleep. That's all you need.

[Ironslave]

Originally Posted by maxxxedpumppimp

I wouldn't recommend fish oil, I read in many different articles that if you consume enough of it it will reduce your sperm count to 0. No joke. It is also not an essesntial fatty acid. And the body doesn't produce it on it's own because obviously it's not essential. Another thing to avoid is any type of soy such as soy protein, soy has been found to actually promote estrogen formation in males. Now you dudes might think I'm a f*cking nut, but just think for one minute. Why is it that almost every food you can pick up at the food store has on the label "this product contains less than two percent of the following: blah, blah, blah, soy protein, blah, blah." Why would they put it in such small amounts into almost every food, because the goverment is doing an experiment on males, to see the adverse affects that they have with soy protein. No, don't think that I'm a nut, and don't be paranoid now, but I'm just saying be careful with what you eat and put into your body. I also don't recommend any supplements at all. Just vitamins, healthy food, hard work, a small amount of gear used wisely, and sleep. That's all you need.

Wha?? Where did you read that bro. Not an essential fatty acid? Fish oil is the undisputed best source of Omega-3 fatty acids, and the EPA/DHA are the main reason for taking the health benefits. Do you know what the definition of an "essential" nutrient is? It means your body needs it, but it CANNOT produce it on its own, therefore it must be obtained through diet. There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of studying proving dozens of positive effects for health and physique transformation. Please find me a medical study that found sperm count reduced to zero, thats rediculous. These supplements are the future of nutrition, i believe that one the the food pyramid will be modified to include these.

As for soy, im very familiar with these effects also, even done a paper on the very topic. It is the efect of the phytoestrogens (phyto means plant) Genestein and Daidzein have on the alpha receptor which is the theory for that. They bond to the alpha receptor inducing transcription which effects thyroid and decreases testosterone. However, a real abundant amount of soy would need to be consumed for these effects to show up, say such as with a vegetarian. Basically there is little reason to take soy in the first place as its amino acid profile is far inferior to animal protein. Also, the reason why it is mentioned on food labels is for allergy purposes, not estrogenic effects.

You reccomend gear but you dont reccomend supplements? Im really confused by this post.

[maxxxedpumppimp]

Oh Cool

[maxxxedpumppimp]

You're taking this all the wrong way. I don't reccomend sh*tty supplements. However I do recommend coconut oil (It speeds up thyroid hormone, therefore increasing the bodies thermogenic capabilities, not to mention it is alot heathier for the heart than fish oil) and I do recommend vitamins/minerals. You misunderstood what I said about omega 3, I said if you OVER DO IT, just like with anything else in this world, it will give you side effects. All you really need is to eat fish 3 times per week and you're set. But everything else I think is bulls*it. You really don't have to take my advice for it, but just remember that whats always the in thing and the fad, isn't always the right thing. And yes I do recommend gear, only to the serious person, it's defienately not something to f*ck around with, and should be taken in legitamate and proper dosages if used at all.

[Ironslave]

You misunderstood the definition of essential, didnt even know it was Omega-3's. how can you over do it? and what are the side effects? You also realize that the people who suffered much less heart disease than a typical western world person were the Iunit. The word Inuit means "eater of raw meet." This is relevant because they would eat their fish raw, as heating the essential fatty acids changes its chemical structure and basically negates the benefits. Im not concerned about what is the fad, im concerned about what science says, and the benefits of these seem almost too good to be true.

Reccomending gear is fine, as long as someone knows what they are doing, has been training for at least 5 years serious, is over 25, and has hit a plateau from doing everything right naturally, training hard and eating properly, taking all the right supplements (creatine, glutamine, BCAA's, dextrose, vitamins, fish oils). If this is the case then great, cycle away as long as it is done safely with proper PCT. If these are not met, then gear sh