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Old 10-04-2009, 11:59 AM   #1
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Hey there...I have some questions about the ECA/ECY stack.
I am currently using ECA stack at 25:200:325 1 time a day for the first 2 days gonna do it 2 times starting tomorrow
1-Is the ECY stack better than ECA ?
2-What about the ECYA ? (I believe in Aspirin's effects on the E and on blood)
3-Does Norepinephrine have the same effect as Norephedrine ?
4-What maximum dosage would you use if it's your first time ?
5-Can I do it for 8 weeks ?
What I was planning to do is as follows :
Days 1-2 : ECA x1/Day
First Week : x2/Day
Second Week : x3/Day
Weeks 3&4 : x3/Day but the E will be 30 mg because I don't have access to any more 25 mg pills and got some Ephedrine HCL in the form of injections but it is just Ephedrine HCL + Water (I will drink it) also I wanted to go for ECY last 2 weeks
I am just afraid of the 90 mg of Ephedrine last two weeks
 
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:58 PM   #2
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Norepinephrine is a neurotransmitter. Norephedrine is a stimulant. They're very different, read the wiki's on them.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:12 AM   #3
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I guessed that too...after all supplementing with pure Adrenaline won't be a good idea
anyone please answer my other questions forget about that norepinephrine thingy
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:45 PM   #4
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Why are you worried about the 90mg of Ephedrine? I would be more concerned with the 975mg of Aspirin. Go with baby aspirin @ 81mg, don't use the big 325's.

I ran 30/200/81 for a while at x3day for a while.

Keep it between 75-100mg a day, and you should be fine. But everyone is different and responses to stimulants vary. Dont take your last dose to late in the day or you could be having troulbe getting to sleep.

Aspirin enhances heat resistance in the body that promotes the longer working ability of Ephedra and Caffeine

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Ephedra and Aspirin
As stated hereinabove, Ephedra and Aspirin both are the most widely blended ingredients of ECA stack. The Aspirin is also popularly known as the Acetylsalicylic Acid which is the most effective drug frequently used due to its known effectiveness of relieving minor body-aches and pains, relieve fevers as well as anti-inflammatory properties. As a matter of fact, Aspirin is being used for the past thousands of years as found in the historical studies. Also as stated by the renowned Greek physician, Hippocrates in whose honor the most widely known ‘Hippocratic Oath’ is named, revealed sometimes during the 5th century BC regarding the bitter tasting powder extracted from White Willow Bark [Salix Alba] which was used for relieving the human body from aches, pains and reduce body temperatures or fevers.

Aspirin nowadays is widely used as the anti-clotting i.e. it has the quality of thinning the blood density proving to be the most actively evading the heart attack possibilities too. According to the medical sciences the cardiac patients are heavily dosed with Aspirin post heart attacks.

Furthermore, the Aspirin is the most significant constituent in the popular ECA stack which is the mixture of Ephedra, Caffeine and Aspirin. The Aspirin stimulates the body heat tolerances which in turn is the most significant fevers combatant.

The human body experiences thermogenesis effects especially with Ephedra and Caffeine while exercising. Thermogenesis really means that while exercising, the muscles generate the internal heat in the human body which gets further promoted by these Ephedra and Caffeine because of the enhanced sum of body fats being burned thereby resulted by the exercises.

Aspirin works effectively in ECA stack as it boosts the body resistance to heat permitting the effects of Ephedra and Caffeine to continue for longer spell in the body. In fact, this enables the human body burning the fats for the extended spell of time.

Ephedra, Ephedrine, Ma Huang
It has been widely known the world over that Ephedra or Ma Huang has been actually in regular use in the Chinese conventional medicines used for the treatment of weight loss for almost over 5000 years now. In fact, the Ephedra is derived from the herb popularly known as Ma Huang and is being used in China for thousands of years as medicine for treating the water retention, asthma and sweating. Furthermore, it is the most powerful yet fully natural bronchodilator which means it has highly effective quality for decongestions. The additional most effective property of Ephedra is its efficiency in appetite suppression and enhancing the natural metabolism in human body. Basically, the sensitive nervous system is also naturally stimulated by the effect of Ephedra which in turn promotes the thermogenesis process in body or rather the eaten foods transformed into the body heat. Typical people with lower metabolism i.e. the low basal metabolic rate should take Ma Huang or Ephedra for controlling and successfully hamper the amount of eaten foods being transformed to the body fats.

Caffeine and Ephedra
Caffeine lesser known as Methyl Theo Bromine is naturally produced Alkaloid found in some foods like Coffee Beans, Tea, Kola Nuts and Cacao Beans. Caffeine is well known for thousands of years for its wonderful medicinal quality of stimulating the central nervous system which significantly boosts the cerebral awareness in its user’s body. Furthermore, Caffeine also stimulates the respiratory process, heart beat rates and promotes the gentle diuretic effects.

Due to Caffeine’s quality of promoting the central nervous system process, discharges the hormone epinephrine naturally by the body responding to boost the nervous system. As a result it enhances hear rate, blood circulation to the muscles and inner organs as well as discharge glucose from liver for the muscle’s use. Basically it benefits the body during exercise as the muscles needs the extended blood supply for more oxygen and the blood requires more circulating glucose necessary to be used for stamina.

The recommended dosage of ECA program for the starters
It entirely depends on the person as somebody notice great success within very short period of initiating full ECA stack dose programs. Whereas for the people initiate with smaller dose and adjust them into the dosage program gradually.
In fact, initially the small dose is advisable to ascertain the body’s resistance to ECA stack, and slowly dose size should be raised to the full program for safer results. This is mainly because of the difference in human bodies as for somebody suggested dose of ECA stack may prove to be stronger initially hence they should ideally raise their dosage to an extent they feel comfortable. It is also believed that gradually reaching the full dose size to evade chances of adverse effects, and is advisable to tune the body for adapting ECA stack to its full dose.
During initial 5 days of program slower rise in dosage is ideal for people willing to take just half of the suggested dosage. They should start full dosage program within 3-4 weeks thereof and take an interval of up to two weeks. This is just the overview for ECA stack program and you should design dosage plan according to your requirements. Consult your doctor before initiating ECA stack or any exercise programs.
hope this helps.
I believe there is an ECA thread on here somewhere with more info.
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:34 PM   #5
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Thx for that post really helps...what about yohimbine ?? would u use it if it's ur first ECA stack ??
and what are the sides of the original 325 mg Aspirin ?
I haven't noticed anything from the Aspirin so should I stay at the classic dose of 325 or change to 81 ?
and it's my 3rd day of ECA (the 1st to use it twice) I didnt feel the energy rush and I am feeling comfortable about it could I up the dose to a full dose starting tomorrow or should I stay at 2x a day for some time ?
 
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:07 AM   #6
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anyone ?
 
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325mg is prbly the max dose you would want to take. It is a dose that give to patients with chest pains.

If you take it 3times a day. that is just shy of a gram of asa. Can cause stomach problems. Asa is a blood thinner so if you are taking that much, have a good time stopping in bleeding from a scrap.

The classic dose is not 325 btw. 81-100mg is the general dose. Baby Aspirin is the classic, since usually you can not find asa in 100mgtabs.

Look up Aspirin and see what problems it can cause you.
 
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if you were going to only take the stack once a day you could get away with using the 325's but I would not advise it 3times a day (975mg)
 
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