[venomx]

Im thinking of doing it soon and want to know your opinions.
I've done quite alot of research, and all i can find on info about under 21's using it is "dont recommend it"

But surely doing a small run.. something like 10/10/20 using milk thistle pre and post cycle, along with Nolvadex for PCT is fine ?

[HawaiianPride.]

No it's not fine. Stick to a solid diet and training routine. Your test levels are already at it's peak and will be this way for the next few years so why alter it.

[T.O]

Originally Posted by venomx

Im thinking of doing it soon and want to know your opinions.
I've done quite alot of research, and all i can find on info about under 21's using it is "dont recommend it"

But surely doing a small run.. something like 10/10/20 using milk thistle pre and post cycle, along with Nolvadex for PCT is fine ?

nope dont do it!!!!!

[projecthatch92]

If you've done your research and they all say wait till 21, then why are you asking for our opinion? It's going to be no different than what you've researched. Post up your diet and workout in the training section and we can help you with that, which should be your main concern.

Just because PH's are being banned at the moment doesn't mean that you need to try running a cycle. By the time you're 21 there will be plenty of clones out for you to try it. The benefits from doing a cycle at your age do not outweigh the risks

[venomx]

Originally Posted by projecthatch92

they all say wait till 21, then why are you asking for our opinion? It's going to be no different than what you've researched.

Because on the label, like most brands they want to protect their back so they have limited liabilty... they just dont want under 21s doing it wrong and then blaming the company
Take a pre workout supp for xample, 99% of them say "18+", yet its fine for any from 14+ to take it as its just a simple energy boost but they dont want little kids o'ding and suing. !

And thats why im asking, physically why shouldn't i run a low dose, correctly of sd at 17

[projecthatch92]

Did you read HP's post? You enough test in your own body as is. Go in the steroid section and read the sticky on young ones taking steroids

[venomx]

Originally Posted by projecthatch92

Did you read HP's post? You enough test in your own body as is. Go in the steroid section and read the sticky on young ones taking steroids

Thats a report of a 15yr old doing dianabol, obviously for an extended period - which is stupid enough, and probably didn't even do a PCT or liver support

[projecthatch92]

Doesn't matter. Just be smart. You're 17 years old. Read some articles about nutrition, eat like a horse, and call it a day

[aBdO511]

I think HP said b4 that he was guilty himself of doing juice at a young age...am I right or that was someone else ? just whoever he was plz tell us about ur experience....and to answer your question you can see an old post of mine I was asking if it's ok to use anavar (I am 16yo) everyone told me not to do it...I just said I wont listen to any1 and will try it because it's mild anyway then I did more research and had the decision never to do any roids/ph before the right time if you will be ignorant and just jump on superdrol...well, good luck because you will need it I will just tell u that asking if its ok to use ph at 17 yo means that u didnt do ur research well....do it again and u will know what I mean

[HawaiianPride.]

Yeah that was me. I can officially say I'm done growing height wise. The doctor examined my joints and bone structure and told me this when I was 19. I'm 5'11, my dad was 6'2 and mom is 5'8, the doc said I should have been at least 6. I'm not blaming it on the PH usage completely but it may have had some effect on my growth plates somehow. Why you ask? Because I wasn't done growing yet. The majority of people stop growing in their low to mid 20's.

Venom, your test levels will never be this high naturally again. So take advantage of this opportunity to grow using what you have. 21 means 21, they label it on there because it seems like a legitimate age to finally alter your natural hormones because pretty soon you will be done growing.

Also, it says 18+ on N.O. products because caffeine is already unhealthy, and that amount of caffeine administered to a "14 year old" is VERY unhealthy.

[Chimera]

Also Venomx, you say you want to run a light cycle of sdrol. Even if you disregard everyones comments and still run it you won't really gain that much if at all and putting yourself in unnecessary danger. If you want to spend your money on something such as supplements, get whey / creatine / bcaa's / fish oil / multivitamin and your set. Eat plates and lift weights, and you'll be golden.

[tps154]

dude why even post if you arent gonna take anyones advice? i have never heard anyone suggest ph to under 21. ive heard 25 even alot

[A-Ron21]

Originally Posted by venomx

Im thinking of doing it soon and want to know your opinions.
I've done quite alot of research, and all i can find on info about under 21's using it is "dont recommend it"

But surely doing a small run.. something like 10/10/20 using milk thistle pre and post cycle, along with Nolvadex for PCT is fine ?

Not a good idea, unless you want to suppress your hormones and close your growth plates, and kill your liver. The 15 year old kid taking dianabol made a terrible decision. Being 2 years older doesn't mean anything. You are not out of puberty. Don't be an idiot.

[projecthatch92]

good post a-ron, I was waiting for you to get into this thread

[A-Ron21]

Originally Posted by projecthatch92

good post a-ron, I was waiting for you to get into this thread

Thanks dude. Honestly I don't think anyone should take superdrol, its just so bad for you its not worth it. Not that it matters now anyways, because they all got ban-acized.

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by venomx

Im thinking of doing it soon and want to know your opinions.
I've done quite alot of research, and all i can find on info about under 21's using it is "dont recommend it"

But surely doing a small run.. something like 10/10/20 using milk thistle pre and post cycle, along with Nolvadex for PCT is fine ?

id wait till your a little older bro, truth is there is no magic number, i would however wait a little longer before you start, do a lot of research, especially on support supplements.

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by A-Ron21

Not a good idea, unless you want to suppress your hormones and close your growth plates, and kill your liver. The 15 year old kid taking dianabol made a terrible decision. Being 2 years older doesn't mean anything. You are not out of puberty. Don't be an idiot.

[rmike]

Originally Posted by tps154

dude why even post if you arent gonna take anyones advice? i have never heard anyone suggest ph to under 21. ive heard 25 even alot

He already looked everywhere else and they didnt tell him what he wanted to hear so he came here and we arent telling him what he wanted to hear. Hes going to do whatever he wants anyways, hes just looking for someone to cosign that foolishness.
Im not trying to be hard on you bro, im one of the ones who did heavy cycles of AAS at 17. Im definitely 3 inches shorter than every male in my family. My SISTER is an inch taller than me!! Do what you want but dont say anyone on the dungeon told you it was okay. Im not condoning this but if your going to do it, protect your liver and do a PROPER pct. Not otc Bulls**t.

[tps154]

^ yep yep

kids see athletes who roid up, and alot of times think "i dont wanna take steroids yet, ill take a PH first and then think about it" . they dont realize PHs are basically steroids (key basically). they are just as harmful, if not worse sometimes, and are more accessable to kids this age ( i was offered 3 different PHs from age 15-18). UTILIZE THE HORMONES YOUR BODY IS PRODUCING. now is the best time to grow, your body is full of test. make the most of it. no one is trying to be hard on you, its just someday youll wake up when youre older, and this is when youll feel the effects of your cycle. be smart, do your research, and stay dedicated to the sport, you will see incredible gains.

[mindstar]

Don't do steroids. I know people call SD a prohormone, but that **** is a steroid and a powerful, toxic one at that. I've heard some guys rank it behind a bombs.

Listen, there is no safe dosage for you at your age. I know that when you're 17, being 30 seems like an impossibility, but what happens if you mess up your liver or endocrine system?

Not worth the risk bro. I'm not going to call you names, because I know how tempting it is to use something to get over that hump, or to make something happen more quickly.

Get your diet right, and I mean really right and train hard and you will look amazing for your prom. Now don't get me wrong, getting your diet right is way harder than taking a pill, but it's something that will have a greater effect than any drug and also something you can maintain forever.

Good luck and maybe read in the nutrition section for some advice.

[rmike]

Good post^^

[venomx]

Thanks guys just to let you know im not gonna be taking any prohormones steroids AAS's etc

[Chimera]

Always glad to hear when someone takes the advice from BBD.

[venomx]

Originally Posted by Chimera

Always glad to hear when someone takes the advice from BBD.

Yeah well i always thought my diet was good and wondering why i wasnt getting desired gains, obviously it wasnt good enough as i realised i wasnt taking in enough protein&carbs or having 6 proper meals... by doing this i've been having sick workouts with mad aggression motivation and awesome recovery !

[projecthatch92]

good to hear brother. let us know if we can help you with anything else

[A-Ron21]

Cool dude, I am glad you listened to us. Here is a simple rule for the dungeon: "A-Ron21 is always right. Even when he is wrong."








lol. jk. sort of.