PH's BANNED!!!

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 12:57 AM

I just got any email from Orbit saying due to FDA pressure they have to stop selling them! I went to bodybuilding.com and they already have all CEL PH's gone!!!!! What the hell is going on?!?!?!?!?!

Jesus I hate the stupid freaking US more and more

**T.O** · 09-30-2009, 01:02 AM

Due to FDA pressure we are forced to sell them off, the senate met today and basically told the fda and dea to take them off the market. After bb.com was raided almost all companies that produce or sell phs have stopped making them or selling them.....for example APS wont sell ultra mass anymore, CEL has discontinued there lines of phs, chaparrel labs has discontinued, performance anabolics has stopped making more....what ever we have left is what we will sell then its game over for phs. its 2004 all over again.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by T.O

Due to FDA pressure we are forced to sell them off, the senate met today and basically told the fda and dea to take them off the market. After bb.com was raided almost all companies that produce or sell phs have stopped making them or selling them.....for example APS wont sell ultra mass anymore, CEL has discontinued there lines of phs, chaparrel labs has discontinued, performance anabolics has stopped making more....what ever we have left is what we will sell then its game over for phs. its 2004 all over again.

So it's pretty much gear or nothing else huh?

**T.O** · 09-30-2009, 01:06 AM

after these are gone idk what will happen, either they come out with more innovative stuff or its a different era we are entering all together.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 01:11 AM

Damn this sucks. Just finishing my H-Drol cycle and I loved it! I'm def gonna buy some tomorrow morning from you guys of you'll still have it. I'M SO PISSED right now!!!

I just love how there's absolutely no proof that any of them are bad although if you don't take the right precautions they could be. Maybe instead of banning everything we should educate people. The government is so stupid. I'm moving to Europe

**T.O** · 09-30-2009, 01:15 AM

dude i will move with you lol.....

they did have a dude on there as a witness that had liver failure from taking a ph but is magically better now but has to watch it for the rest of his life cause his doctor said so. There wasnt one person there that was defending them at all or saying hey lets just regulate the labels better, that wasnt even the issue they had it was all about designer steroids and steriod precusors.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 01:24 AM

Jesus what's the world coming too. The govenment spent more time on steriods in baseball then issues like the war in Iraq, Katrina, and a few more things combined. I never have said I hated this country but it's just getting beyond ridiculous I can't handle it anymore.

And I'm sure the witnesses for weren't even allowed to speak. I know there's millions out there that would speak in defense. It's just dumbasses like this guy who probably didn't take the right precautions or took way to much and screwed himself. I say we ban peanuts next. They kill 1000s of people a year.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

**projecthatch92** · 09-30-2009, 01:24 AM

this makes me hate stupid people even more.

pixil · 09-30-2009, 07:33 AM

What the hell. This really pisses me off.

WTF are we suppost to take instead now instead of real gear. Freaking bs.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 07:36 AM

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What the hell. This really pisses me off.

WTF are we suppost to take instead now instead of real gear. Freaking bs.

You either wait for the clones, collect together a force to repeal the decision, or pay extra for the stuff they have left over.

pixil · 09-30-2009, 07:47 AM

How long untill you think the clones are out. 4 months?

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 07:50 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if they were. I don't really remember how fast clones came out after the 04 stuff happened.

What is funny though is that the bans are probably going to be the cause of either PH's becoming more dangerous from having to change up things or more safe.

pixil · 09-30-2009, 08:00 AM

Oh I thought PH's were banned all together. As in no one could make anything even close to it any more. I never even heard of a PH in 04 haha.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 08:02 AM

They had a ban in 04 over certain stuff.

Prohormone Ban Signed by President Bush

Then what they did was create clones, essentially just changing a molecule or two around.

pixil · 09-30-2009, 08:10 AM

Thank's for clearing this up. I'm sure they have back up forumla's all ready thought out.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 08:25 AM

Yeah, they most likely have stuff ready to go out.

pixil · 09-30-2009, 08:42 AM

Do you take PH's Thomas?

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 08:45 AM

Nope. I'm going to look into the ECA stack but never used PH's. I just find it ridiculous that alcohol is legal, causes liver damage, overall negative body effects, raises estrogen levels when abused, can cause gyno, is the direct causes for deaths. But PH's are criminalized.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 09:11 AM

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Nope. I'm going to look into the ECA stack but never used PH's. I just find it ridiculous that alcohol is legal, causes liver damage, overall negative body effects, raises estrogen levels when abused, can cause gyno, is the direct causes for deaths. But PH's are criminalized.

Preaching to the choir man. Alcohol is the most dangerous thing on this planet in terms of preventable deaths, besides cigarettes and obesity, yet it's still all fine and dandy. I'll never understand it

**T.O** · 09-30-2009, 09:24 AM

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You either wait for the clones, collect together a force to repeal the decision, or pay extra for the stuff they have left over.

Our prices havent gone up at all in fact some went down to move quicker.

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 09:27 AM

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Our prices havent gone up at all in fact some went down to move quicker.

I didn't mean yours. I know some guys will put prices up to scrape some more money out.

**T.O** · 09-30-2009, 09:31 AM

oh yeah for sure, i didn't think you were talking about us i just wanna make sure people know i am not going to jack the price, i don't believe in price gouging.

pixil · 09-30-2009, 09:33 AM

Edit: Time to pick up a bottle or two of tri meth x

**Thomas_Rivera** · 09-30-2009, 10:00 AM

Mental note: Before next ban buy wholesale bulk levels of stuff and sell it.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 10:02 AM

^^^For sure I'm ordering a couple bottles of H-Drol some P-Plex and maybe something else. Gotta get outta class though. I'm antsy. Lol

pixil · 09-30-2009, 10:05 AM

Now you guys only have 11 left :P

pixil · 09-30-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Determined 08

^^^For sure I'm ordering a couple bottles of H-Drol some P-Plex and maybe something else. Gotta get outta class though. I'm antsy. Lol

A couple guezze lol. How long do you go between cycles?

I only run something like tri meth x for a month with 2-3 months in between.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 10:11 AM

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A couple guezze lol. How long do you go between cycles?

I only run something like tri meth x for a month with 2-3 months in between.

The same 2-3 months. I just figure but a year supple worth, like 3 cycles, and hopefully by then they will have something out. If not I'll be 21 and move onto gear. Lol jk

pixil · 09-30-2009, 10:13 AM

They will most likley have stuff out in about 2-3 months.

Determined 08 · 09-30-2009, 10:16 AM

Yeah hopefully but I'd rather not take a chance. How's that tri-methyl x? I'm sure it's much stronger then the H-Drol for sure. Haven't really heard
much about it besides you talking about it on previous threads