[boxing750]

hey bros my bro is turning 18 already and alot of people on the football team are trying to get him into anabolics or roids, i say forget the juice and maybe some supplements will help out but i have no idea as far as what to recommend. Some of his friends use test boosters and have put up some great numbers real fast he's 6ft 216 and plays defensive tackle but not all muscle. What would be a area to start looking for? He's tried nanox9 and altered state but said he didnt feel anything and niether did i really. So he's thinkn of a test booster maybe from A.E. and some cycle assist i had read about and of course pct if he goes that route. Basicly were trying to help him out for college level football. These are some of his weight lifting max's thanks dudes

Benchpress-320lbs
Squat-435lbs
Power clean-225lbs
incline-245lbs

[Kaboom]

Yeah he needs to stay away from steroids for a while but also needs to stay away from boosters.Most of them are a waste of money anyway.
At his age a great diet and a workout plan does wonders.Protein,vitamins and maybe creatine would help him some.College level football isnt an excuse for steroids.

[SpargelJanusz]

Lol, another one of those "I have a brother / friend / relative who want to juice. He's only 16/17/18 etc." posts.

Have the balls to say you want to throw in DS instead of going that lame route, boxing750.

[tomdelongste]

from seeing his stats and hes not even 18, dusnt seem like he needs em anyway

[Chimera]

Test boosters would be a waste of money especially for him. If he wants supplements go with the basic stack consisting of Whey, Creatine, Fish Oil, and a Multivitamin (you can throw in additional stuff ontop of that i.e. BCAA's and Casein) and focus on his diet. Honestly, if he is 17 years old and those are his stats then just have him keep doing what he is doing; those stats are great at any age and even more ridiculous at his age.

[HawaiianPride.]

Like advised above, Mutlvia Vitamins, Fish Oil, Flax Seed, Whey and Casein. That's it, this guy is in his prime of growing. No need for enhancements.

[Kevsworld]

Ditto to some other posts--I'd never recommend steroids for a teenager.

[boxing750]

Originally Posted by SpargelJanusz

Lol, another one of those "I have a brother / friend / relative who want to juice. He's only 16/17/18 etc." posts.

Have the balls to say you want to throw in DS instead of going that lame route, boxing750.

I DONT WANT TO USE THEM if you dont know i'm barely recovering from a shoulder surgery so i wouldn't benefit from them as if i were 100 %. Plus i've done them before my brother is really 17 and some kid on the team is barely pushing more than that because some test boosters and juice when lsat year i guess that kid wasn't really anything now he's first string or something

Originally Posted by Kevsworld

Ditto to some other posts--I'd never recommend steroids for a teenager.

Thats what i was thinking it his test levels i read for a teenager are around high 300's no need to juice for what is already there.

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Like advised above, Mutlvia Vitamins, Fish Oil, Flax Seed, Whey and Casein. That's it, this guy is in his prime of growing. No need for enhancements.

Ya thanks pride i went ahead and orderd him some of the basics like bcaa, fish oil, flax seed, he already has the muscle milk (UT influenced it), im hoping the diet will help him get more inshape and loose some more fat and put more muscle on, ya i tried lifting with him but we always exchange plates sucks he's younger and stronger than me but i still tap him out lol

[Kevsworld]

Here's a little 3-part series I wrote over on my blog. Maybe it will help:

Strong and Fit: Lose Fat, Build Muscle: Truth about Steroids

[boxing750]

oh ya i read that article suffering through some other post very informative (i liked the history about it), but i think my lil bro is getting influenced with the right now vs later on in life results. Especially when you see some1's gains you know

[Kevsworld]

Well, ask him to read my articles or email me if necessary. I'm not 100% anti-steroid, but I think it is foolish to take them when you are still a teenager. He has plenty of natural testosterone to fuel his growth.

[boxing750]

ya i'll tell him to get on when he gets home from practice ya im not sure roids is not what i was wanting him to try, but i know the anabolic ones are just as dangerous if not taken properly but if you took it properly with right diet then that could be very nice imo

[Futurebb01]

Hey Boxer, let your brother know that scientifically, its actually detrimental for him to start using roids at his age. Whether it is you or him thinking about steroids i am 18 turning 19 and have contemplated using them alot until i did my research and talked to many professional bodybuilders at my gym about it.
Right now males peak in NATURAL test levels. THE BEST TYPE. if he starts bringing his levels even higher his body will stop making the natural portion of test because he is supplementing with it (this goes for t-boosters as well), also note that his estrogen levels will increase as his t-levels do.

Now once the male hits his mid-late 20's his t-levels will drop, however, your brothers will drop SIGNIFICANTLY below the natural amount being produced, especially once he gets off the juice, because his body EXPECTS him to be supplementing. NOTE: his estrogen levels will also be very out of wack because they raise as test levels do.

Though he is thinking about being the biggest, fastest and strongest he could be now, judging by his stats he is doing pretty damn good already. And when all those dudes are getting bigger and bigger and abusing the enhancements,(also dealing with the symptoms of abusing the drug because they probably arent cycling properly.) your brother will know he is all natural. Tell him he could use those guys to compete with too, he knows there on the juice, and see if he can be better than them, naturally!

If he still wants to start juicing, try and prolong it as long as possible. and make sure when hes doing it, hes doing good ****, and properly. Im not a roid hater, but i think when enhancements are used correctly and NEVER abused they can substantially benefit a person.

[musicmann89]

Originally Posted by Futurebb01

Hey Boxer, let your brother know that scientifically, its actually detrimental for him to start using roids at his age. Whether it is you or him thinking about steroids i am 18 turning 19 and have contemplated using them alot until i did my research and talked to many professional bodybuilders at my gym about it.
Right now males peak in NATURAL test levels. THE BEST TYPE. if he starts bringing his levels even higher his body will stop making the natural portion of test because he is supplementing with it (this goes for t-boosters as well), also note that his estrogen levels will increase as his t-levels do.

Now once the male hits his mid-late 20's his t-levels will drop, however, your brothers will drop SIGNIFICANTLY below the natural amount being produced, especially once he gets off the juice, because his body EXPECTS him to be supplementing. NOTE: his estrogen levels will also be very out of wack because they raise as test levels do.

Though he is thinking about being the biggest, fastest and strongest he could be now, judging by his stats he is doing pretty damn good already. And when all those dudes are getting bigger and bigger and abusing the enhancements,(also dealing with the symptoms of abusing the drug because they probably arent cycling properly.) your brother will know he is all natural. Tell him he could use those guys to compete with too, he knows there on the juice, and see if he can be better than them, naturally!

If he still wants to start juicing, try and prolong it as long as possible. and make sure when hes doing it, hes doing good ****, and properly. Im not a roid hater, but i think when enhancements are used correctly and NEVER abused they can substantially benefit a person.

your body will stop producing testosterone even when your 30 if you take any synthetic hormones, he wont notice much from test booster because they only will increase testosterone IF you are already low on test.

[indirocz28]

damn, im 22 and i'd like to have your bro's stats

( i suck) :( lol

[boxing750]

ya he somehow just passed me on everything i was like wtf lol but i still tap him out and show him whos the older brother lol