L-Glutamine worth it?

Mr Moley · 07-10-2009, 12:40 PM

Is it worth me getting some to help with recovery?

Is it necessary do you guys think?

All opinions appreciated.

Merci.

ALSO: Back to Red Acid again, i can get 180 caps of the first gen red acid for £9. It best before was Nov 08 but that should really affect it if it hasn't been opened should it?

Reckon i should nab it while it's still there and give it a go?

**allstar** · 07-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Glutamine is really a shoot and miss question on here, some will tell you YES some will tell you NO, what I will tell you is that their is no studies proving that taking glutamine orally will help muscles grow/recover, all studies were given glutamine via IV, but that is not to say glutamine is completely pointless, it does help with the intestines and digestion.

As for the Red Acid, I would contact a CL rep.

**MikeNYY420** · 07-10-2009, 03:13 PM

I read an article by Layne Norton where he advices the use of glutamine PWO because you lose a lot during the workout. Personally I think the 10g of glutamine my whey protein has is plenty. Free form amino acids don't occur naturally so they probably won't have a benefit for the human body. Straight out of the book there and think about it, throughout evolution people haven't been eating glutamine. So I'd say no it's not worth it.

Mr Moley · 07-10-2009, 04:22 PM

Who is a CL rep here?

Thanks for the replies guys, i'm still undecided. I can get 1kg of L-Glutamine powder for £24...it's a pretty good deal really but i just kinda wanted to check.

All other opinions welcome guys, keep the replies coming!

**Zack** · 07-10-2009, 04:36 PM

in a word... no lol

GeorgeT · 07-10-2009, 04:45 PM

there's more then enough in whey protein usually supplementing feels pointless, creatine, leucine, beta-alanine are far superior choices.

**Moro** · 07-10-2009, 05:27 PM

90% of it will turn into glucose, makes it kinda expensive when you think your only getting 10% of what you pay for

**mindstar** · 07-10-2009, 05:36 PM

i vote no.

**Freak** · 07-10-2009, 05:43 PM

Mr Moley · 07-10-2009, 06:38 PM

ok i wont get any :)

But i bought the red acid though. 180 caps for £9. Can't go wrong. I read some reviews and it seems like it's gunna be great.

GettinITDone · 07-10-2009, 09:47 PM

Best before Nov 08? I don't know about that dude...cheap or not, that's a little old if you ask me.

**A-Ron21** · 07-11-2009, 01:53 AM

Your body makes glutamine, you don't need it.

**Freak** · 07-11-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeNYY420

I read an article by Layne Norton where he advices the use of glutamine PWO because you lose a lot during the workout. Personally I think the 10g of glutamine my whey protein has is plenty. Free form amino acids don't occur naturally so they probably won't have a benefit for the human body. Straight out of the book there and think about it, throughout evolution people haven't been eating glutamine. So I'd say no it's not worth it.

That article is OLD.

Mr Moley · 07-11-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GettinITDone

Best before Nov 08? I don't know about that dude...cheap or not, that's a little old if you ask me.

if it gives me side affects then ill just stop using it. no biggie.

GeorgeT · 07-11-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Moley

if it gives me side affects then ill just stop using it. no biggie.

it would probably lose just a little bit of potency if anything. But i don't think it'll be a big difference.

Mr Moley · 07-11-2009, 06:41 PM

Well there's 180 caps in the bottle. I wake up at 8:45am ish and have breakfast near to 9, so ill take 3 when i wake then i usually leave the house at 9:15am and get to my gym at 9.30am start my workout so i may take another 3 as i'm warming up.

Good idea?

Should i run it for the full 4 weeks or do a 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on thing like phenadrine?

**MikeNYY420** · 07-11-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Freak

That article is OLD.

Yeah I was wondering about that, I didn't really know why he'd support it when most stuff I see around doesn't.

**MikeNYY420** · 07-11-2009, 09:30 PM

Actually now that I think about it that thing about the single amino acids not being helpful for the body can't be true.

**Moro** · 07-12-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Moley

Well there's 180 caps in the bottle. I wake up at 8:45am ish and have breakfast near to 9, so ill take 3 when i wake then i usually leave the house at 9:15am and get to my gym at 9.30am start my workout so i may take another 3 as i'm warming up.

Good idea?

Should i run it for the full 4 weeks or do a 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on thing like phenadrine?

Just take them till they run out your body doesn't build up a tolerance like it would to a stimulant

Mr Moley · 07-12-2009, 11:02 AM

Ok so ill wake up, take 3, have breakfast a little later, walk to the gym, take 3 more, warm up and pound that iron for 4 weeks straight. Sounds awsome haha.

terpsfb · 07-12-2009, 12:15 PM

First post here...

I heard in an interview the other day that glutamine is great to take, but to really get the benefits form it you need to be taking about 50g a day.

**MikeNYY420** · 07-12-2009, 12:24 PM

There's glutamine claims everywhere but no studies to back up oral use.

terpsfb · 07-12-2009, 12:42 PM

I don't know of any studies you can search pub med etc. but the reasoning for the high dosage is because glutamine is already the most abundant amino in the muscle, so a high dosage is needed to see any results/recovery.

**MikeNYY420** · 07-12-2009, 02:09 PM

Yeah, that would make sense but still I've never seen or heard of anything to prove it and I'm pretty sure no such thing exists.

terpsfb · 07-12-2009, 04:56 PM

well I can't post the damn pub med links, but the studies used up to .65g of glutamine/ kg of body weight. Another used 3.5g of glutamine peptides and saw benefits.

**A-Ron21** · 07-12-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by terpsfb

well I can't post the damn pub med links, but the studies used up to .65g of glutamine/ kg of body weight. Another used 3.5g of glutamine peptides and saw benefits.

Maybe with diabetics or geriatrics, but 20 year old kids lifting weights aren't going to see anything from taking a few grams of glutamine.

terpsfb · 07-12-2009, 08:53 PM

actually these studies were done athletes, particularly football and triathletes. I know a lot of bodybuilders use glutamine and the dosages are typically around 40-50grams. If he can afford he can try it out and see how it works. I personally feel it's not worthwhile.

**MikeNYY420** · 07-12-2009, 09:49 PM

Were those studies done using an IV?

terpsfb · 07-13-2009, 12:45 AM

I highly doubt it. If they were, the abstract probably would have stated mL's instead of grams. It seems to me though that for every study disproving something there's is another saying it is true. However, I also came across something stating that you can replace your pwo carb w/ a high dosage of glutamine, say, 40-50g whey + 40-50g glutamine while your cutting. The glutamine ends up replenishing your glycogen stores but w/o the huge insulin release. So if you have insulin resistance, hold a lot of supriliac fat, you could try that. I may try it starting sometime next week and see how it goes.

**MikeNYY420** · 07-13-2009, 01:14 PM

If you don't have any carbs PWO then your body has to make glucose from amino acids, so glutamine use would make sense there.