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Old 07-07-2009, 01:19 AM   #1
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I just ordered my asteroid stack and instead of going with usp labs jacked i went with the Axis Labs Smash Fully Loaded because I seemed to see more potential on what it had in store for me.

My Dosage: If you think I should change anything PLEASE let me know

Prime - 5 days on 2 off (2 pills B, L, D)
PowerFULL - 5 days on 2 off (2 pills 30 min. pre-wo, 2 before bed)
Anabolic Pump - Everyday (1 pill 15 min. before pre-wo meal, 1 15 min.
before post-wo meal) Gonna start taking 3 pills a day after a week. The third will be 15 min. before breakfast.
Fully Loaded - 2 scoops 30 min. pre-wo
Scifit kre-Alk-1 pill on wakeup-1 pill post wo
Isopure whey protein- 2 scoops po wo (should I do more?)

Any suggestions?Should I alter anything?

I am 5'8 140 16 years old, my goal is to get to 150-155 by school start.

I will be logging and letting everybody know how my gains are going.
 
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:57 AM   #2
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Also if you dont think any of the preworkouts I nominated above are the best prework out then just reply and let me know what you think is, all opinions are welcome!
 
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:48 AM   #3
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shouldn't be taking powerfull....
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:10 PM   #4
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Well yes I have heard that a couple times, but then also I have heard from a lot more people that i've talked to in person that it is fine to take. Why do you think I shouldnt take it? Just out of curiosity
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:44 PM   #5
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Bump, trying to get some suggestions
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:34 PM   #6
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With all these jacked votes, I think after I finish my tub of Smash FL im goin to right to Jack3d fellas
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:35 PM   #7
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^Keep the votes up it's really helping me and other people out on deciding which preworkout to go out and order. Appreciate it fellas!
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:20 PM   #8
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he said you shouldnt take powerfull because your only 16....hormonal products should only be used by people over 21, your hormones are very delicate right now, as you are not fully grown...messing with your hormone balance right now is a bad idea
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:29 PM   #9
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The stack is non-hormonal
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:39 PM   #10
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non-hormonal as in it doesn't contain hormones....but powerfull is a human growth hormone booster, it signals your brain to release the gh. Powerfull is by far one of the safest anabolics out there though but i still wouldnt take it at 16
 
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:59 PM   #11
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Alright well unfortunatley I already ordered it so well see how it goes on my first cycle, and thanks for looking out for me i appreciate it.
 
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:19 PM   #12
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no problem bud, good luck and how many stacks did you order?
 
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Tricky why are you taking the Stack If your only 16 it is very unlikely that it will have any effect

-This is not exactly for you tricky-

Why can't people these days just save their money and do it all natural until there at least 21 I really don't get it its like the generation ADD does not have the patience to work at it.
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can't stop moving, ADHD so bad must keep... ah . Lol I don't think it's the ADD bro every has ADD according to doctors. Here' what I had to do to be considered ADD. I walked in the doctor's office and said I couldn't pay attention in school " Oh I'll give you some Adderall". That's it. It shouldn't be that easy hahaha.

I agree though test products are bad at our age. GH increasers are bs. I tried Leukic because it said "increases GH by 666%". You know what I got? 6 horse pills everyday pre work out and for what? 60$ and no gains. Powerfull is probably not powerfull at all.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:25 AM   #15
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hahhahah in the floor ....continued ahhahahah
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In the floor? Alright you lost me haha.
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on i didnt want to waste a post the i is right next to the o
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:02 AM   #18
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Lol I have no idea what you're talking about man, we've just highjacked like 3 threads lmao. An explanation post is just one more of like 25 that we've posted haha.
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If I see results then what should I do? go another cycle?
 
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Attribute it to a placebo effect lol. Don't waste the money, if you want GH increases that bad just go out and buy GH when your older.
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GH mmmm excellent
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM   #22
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Lol your a bad influence on the children mister. Hahah jk.
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alright mike here we go tricky don't mess with your GH your too young and it might f*** you up forever
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Powerfull is probably not powerfull at all.
I would beg to differ my friend... We at USPlabs have gathered some pretty sexy data on that fact with HEALTHY adults and THIRD PARTY RESEACH (Meaning they have no financial interest in producing a positive study):

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The 221% value was the mean figure taken from the plasma GH increases in a younger group of 44 individuals (31-44) and older group of 42 individuals (64-88). Study was performed with 500mg l-DOPA without decarboxylase inhibitor adjuvant administration. Two capsules of PowerFULL, containing a standardized extract of Mucuna Pruriens, contains the equivalent to 500mg synthetic l-DOPA. Individuals had healthy GH metabolism.

In terms of definite amount of IUs, I familiar with two values in the marketing: a figure of 3IU and a figure of 12IU. As per the 3IU figure, if you take the average baseline plasma GH figures given in the Greenspan study, and apply the 221% using the same reference range, the result is an average increase of approximately 1mg. All compounds have a different IU equivalent, and GH’s is 1mg = 3IU. This could be a plausible source for the 3IU figure. However, you have to note that 1mg GH is the equivalent amount to 3IU, which is not the same as saying, “It is like injecting 3IU of synthetic growth hormone”. Exogenous GH is susceptible to metabolism once in the body, so injecting 3IU GH will most likely not produce a plasma GH increase of 1mg; that is merely the amount of GH contained in 3IU.

As per the 12IU figure, this most likely stems from an equivocation of the Greenspan study, which noted substantially higher mean plasma GH increases than the Lin and Tucci studies. The studies are included below for reference.

Dopaminergic regulation of gonadotropin and thyrotropin hormone secretion is altered with age. Greenspan SL, Sparrow D. Horm Res. 1991;36(1-2):41-6.

Provocative tests of growth-hormone release. A comparison of results with seven stimuli. Lin T, Tucci JR. Ann Intern Med. 1974 Apr;80(4):464-9
I guess its not THAAAAT Powerful... hahaha
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well im limiting the dosage on powerfull
 
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Haha, I've never used it I just know that all of the supplement claims I've seen have been exaggerated. That study's very hard to read.
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Alright, basically I don't think that any GH supps are legit or will yield noticeable results.
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Alright, basically I don't think that any GH supps are legit or will yield noticeable results.
You're obviously entitled to your opinion. However, I would beg to differ.
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As you are entitled to yours, maybe I'll try this Powerfull stuff since I have heard good stuff about USPlabs. Honestly I didn't look to see who it was by which I should have. Maybe I'll try it in the future to be able to definitively say this is a great product, or this sucked.

If noticeable results are there it's worth a try. If there's a graph saying 666% increase in GH, well then I just shake my head and walk away.
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